Nah, that's a meaningless argument since any cutoff has to leave some team as the highest-ranked team not included. Heck, basketball teams fuss when they're the 65th team instead of the 64th. But put it in perspective. Just as a 16th seed has never won the NCAA basketball tourney, a 9th or 10th team would never win a real football NC. Name me one year when anyone was arguing that the number 9 or 10 team belonged in the BCS championship game and had gotten cheated out of the opportunity. They don't, because the 9 and 10 teams simply aren't good enough. Two teams are too few to find a real champion, four teams would be marginal, but the legitimate contenders would always be in the top eight.
Here's this year's top 8. What team with any real chance of winning a tournament is missing? Boise State? Ohio State? Neither team would run this gauntlet. No, eight teams would cover it. I respectfully disagree with your last statement... a playoff wouldn't solve all the world's problems, or even all the problems in college football, but it would certainly solve the problems with the BCS and give legitimacy to the football national championship. For the first time, a national champion would have actually earned the title by defeating the best teams in the country, regardless of conference, on the field where the game belongs. 1 Alabama 12-0 0.9713 2 Oklahoma 11-1 0.9350 3 Texas 11-1 0.9223 4 Florida 11-1 0.8850 5 USC 10-1 0.8077 6 Utah 12-0 0.7843 7 Texas Tech 11-1 0.7807 8 Penn State 11-1 0.7373 Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Woody (via wireless) > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 PM > To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami > Herald and Palm Beach Post > > > Try convincing the teams ranked 9 and 10 that they were not worthy of > making the playoff. > > A playoff system really doesnt fix the problems with the BCS. > > Woody (via wireless) > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Oliver Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Sent: 12/1/2008 11:13 PM > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami > Herald and Palm Beach Post > > You're absolutely right Rob. Let me revise my comments. > The system works... for the Gators! :-) > Oliver > > ________________________________ > > From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on behalf of NZ Gator > Sent: Mon 12/1/2008 9:42 PM > To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami > Herald and Palm Beach Post > > > > When I teach my course on mathematical modeling of ecosystems, one of > the things I have to point out repeatedly to my students is that they > will get some answer no matter how badly they've modeled the system. > The mere fact that they got an answer from their model doesn't mean > it's a valid or useful answer. The same thing applies here. The BCS > system -which is a mathematical model- 'works' in the sense that it > gives us some result each year, but that doesn't mean the results are > valid or that the system 'works' in the sense if it working well. > Texas, USC, Texas Tech, Utah -I'm sure there are others- all have a > legitimate right to complain about a system that doesn't give them a > chance to prove whether their teams are better than ours. It's a broken > system and needs to be replaced with an 8-team playoff. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Oliver Barry > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:30 PM > To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami > Herald and Palm Beach Post > > > > It's going to be Oklahoma. They will destroy Missouri. > > Texas is just going to have to live with the fact the voters, including > computers, like OK better. > > USC won the Pac 10. As Leon would say, so what? > > Gators will play OK. > > The system works. > > > > > <https://mail.haloprop.com/exchange/obarry/Drafts/RE:%20[gatortalk]%20R > e:%20[gatornews]%20Today%27s%20Gatornews%20from%20Miami%20Herald%20and% > 20Palm%20Beach%20Post.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg> > > Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI > > Real Estate Broker > > Halo Realty, LLC > > 700 E. Main St. > > Hendersonville TN 37075 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > office: 615-822-3509 > > fax: 615-822-7741 > > mobile: 615-972-4239 > > ________________________________ > > From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Vega > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 AM > To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami > Herald and Palm Beach Post > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: > > > > The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team > each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just > as it should be. > > One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. > The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes, just as it should be. > > Who said the system doesn't work? > > Pete Carroll might have an argument. > > > > Unlike texas, Southern Cal won its conference. > > > > If it weren't for the artificial restriction on margin of victory, the > computers would likely have Southern Cal as #1 in the country. > > > > See Sagarin here: > > > > http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm > > > > "Predictor" is his real formula, the one Sagarin used before the BCS > made him drop margin of victory. > > > > Note that Florida is the only other team anywhere close to Southern > Cal. Texas and Oklahoma are a far cry behnd. > > > > -Zeb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
