And you just said you ARE a proud pollyana so that wouldn't be an attack. That would be calling a kettle black...
In fact, I may have complimented you with that. It is not bad to be a pollyanna, but it seems to be if you don't agree with a pollyanna. "Oliver Barry" <oli...@bobparks.com> wrote: >Yes, you are afraid of disagreement. That's why you're defending yourself >so vehemently now. >Personal attacks? You just called me a Pollyanna! :-) > >Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >Real Estate Broker >Bob Parks Realty >1517 Hunt Club Blvd >Gallatin TN 37066 >Phone: 615-826-4040 >Fax: 615-822-2027 >Mobile: 615-972-4239 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On >Behalf Of Scott Lucas >Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:00 PM >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator >offense finds its identity > >What facts? I am stating opinions... you are the only one saying things >without checking facts, and to your own admission. > >I'm not afraid of disagreement. This list used to be great about that, open >dialogue, discussions, now its just personal at...@ks when you have a >differing opinion... > >Nice. All kinds of weather? > > > >"Oliver Barry" <oli...@bobparks.com> wrote: > >>No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the >players >>are lousy. But, you did say one player was lazy. And, Keith just accused >>anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking". >>I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything >>you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy. >>But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately >>expressing themselves?" >>Nor, am I lumping everyone together. You are precisely who I was talking >>to. >>Is that "running you off?" >>What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you? >> >>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >>Real Estate Broker >>Bob Parks Realty >>1517 Hunt Club Blvd >>Gallatin TN 37066 >>Phone: 615-826-4040 >>Fax: 615-822-2027 >>Mobile: 615-972-4239 >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On >>Behalf Of Scott Lucas >>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM >>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator >>offense finds its identity >> >>Talk about words in someone's mouth! I never said the coaches or players >>were lousy. I have always said there is still much room for improvement. >>Apparently, most have an issue with that... >> >>I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you >want. >>Apparently you already have. From your comment, it seems you only read >half >>of what I send. >> >>I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy. >>I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be >>more imaginative and not lump everyone together. >> >>So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is >>not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid? We are not allowed to voice >our >>opinions? We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't >>match your own? >> >>Cmon... this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days. >> >> >> >> >>"Oliver Barry" <oli...@bobparks.com> wrote: >> >>>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this >>>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are >>>lousy/players are lousy". >>> >>>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations. >>> >>>The team is very young, talented or not. >>> >>>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year. >>> >>>O line was injured in first two games. >>> >>>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team >>>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations. >>> >>>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in >the >>>pre-season. Surprise! They, like you do the same thing every year! >>> >>>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a >>>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year. >>> >>>What are you going to say when we win the NC? It will happen by next >>>season. With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy >coaches >>>we have a long shot at doing it this year! >>> >>>What then? Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more? Why can't >>we >>>beat the Packers? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >>> >>>Real Estate Broker >>> >>>Bob Parks Realty >>> >>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd >>> >>>Gallatin TN 37066 >>> >>>Phone: 615-826-4040 >>> >>>Fax: 615-822-2027 >>> >>>Mobile: 615-972-4239 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On >>>Behalf Of Scott Lucas >>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM >>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >>>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator >>>offense finds its identity >>> >>> >>> >>>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement >>>fan"... It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy >we >>>are 4-0. >>> >>> >>>How dare we question anything about this team? They are, after all, >>>perfect. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>>From: Keith Baldwin <ke...@baldwinnc.com> >>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >>>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM >>>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator >>>offense finds its identity >>> >>>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years - >>>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't >have >>>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?! >>> >>> >>> >>>That says - serious coaching problems. >>> >>> >>> >>>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen? >>>And have confidence in them? >>> >>> >>> >>>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true >freshmen >>>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years. >>> >>> >>> >>>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at >>>Alabama, Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it? >>> >>> >>> >>>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these >>>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the >>>system. >>> >>> >>> >>>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays? >>>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing? Why >>>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub >>>quizzing him on the plays? >>> >>> >>> >>>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard >>>are excuses. >>> >>> >>> >>>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good >>>things. But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and >speaks >>>of a major problem. I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am >>not >>>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it. >>> >>> >>> >>>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap >>>the ball. >>> >>> >>> >>>Maybe we should go back to a JV team? That is what schools use to do to >>>develop players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready. >>> >>> >>> >>>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On >>>Behalf Of Oliver Barry >>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM >>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >>>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com >>><http://foxsportsflorida.com/> ] Gator offense finds its identity >>> >>> >>> >>>Scott, >>> >>>I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field >>>passes you've been wanting. It's the receivers who weren't ready to go. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >>> >>>Real Estate Broker >>> >>>Bob Parks Realty >>> >>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd >>> >>>Gallatin TN 37066 >>> >>>Phone: 615-826-4040 >>> >>>Fax: 615-822-2027 >>> >>>Mobile: 615-972-4239 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/pages/gators_blog/0> Image removed by >>>sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg >>> >>> >>>Gator offense finds its identity >>> >>> >>> >>>By >>><http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/pages/landing?&Larry-Vettel=1&blockID=989 >9 >>9 >>>&feedID=4320> LARRY VETTEL >>> <http://florida.scout.com/> FightinGators.com >>> >>>Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to >>>the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I >>>want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had. >>>(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the >>>play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. >Now >>>that we have confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna >>>go." >>> >>>-- >>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>2008 National Football Champions | >>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >(1996), >>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >>><http://www.gatornet.us/> >>> >>>-- >>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>2008 National Football Champions | >>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >(1996), >>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >>> >>>-- >>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>2008 National Football Champions | >>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >(1996), >>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >>> >>>-- >>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>2008 National Football Champions | >>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >(1996), >>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
