I doubt Darren Heitner would tweet what he did if there wasnt some truth to
it.

That being said.. he also said Taggart was UF's #1 choice.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:18 AM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I have heard directly from some folks that have had very good early info
> in the past. They are careful to say that it is *close* to being a done
> deal, but they also say that they strongly expect it to happen very shortly.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 11:13:04 AM EST, 'Scott Lucas' via
> GatorTalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Based on the reading of tea leaves?  LOL.  Why are you so confident?
>
> Scott
>
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 11:00:48 AM EST, 'Steve McKibben' via
> GatorTalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Woody and Oliver - don't go putting any money on your hunches...
>
> I think you will see an announcement that CK will be/has been hired BEFORE
> this weekend - and no, I won't put any money on that either, because "stuff
> happens, but I feel strongly this is all but a done deal.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 10:33:11 AM EST, Woody <
> gatorrr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The other possibility is that there is vetting going on, and Kelly is
> involved, but Kelly is being asked about Frost. Remember, he worked for
> Kelly at Oregon.
>
> I think Stricklin is very close to pulling the trigger on his guy. He
> wants everything in place to make the announcement (official) on 12/3.
>
> Woody
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Oliver Barry <bar...@realtracs.com>
> wrote:
>
> There is nothing but rumor. No official reports. No announcements.
>
> We really don’t know for sure if Kelly was “vetted.”
>
> I would suspect someone called his agent and asked him if there was any
> interest.
>
> Someone has likely called Scott Frost’s agent, Dan Mullen’s agent, Justin
> Fuente’s agent, etc.
>
> But, no coach has been contacted.
>
> Steve Spurrier said the new coach is currently with his team.
>
> That would eliminate Chip Kelly.
>
> Tim Tebow, Bob Stoops, Jon Gruden, Steve Spurrier are also eliminated.
> Lane Kiffin is eliminated by common sense.
>
>
>
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>
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> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com
> <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Woody Bass
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:44 AM
> *To:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating
> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>
>
>
> Well I think the report he was being vetted is likely more accurate than
> any negotiating going on right now.
>
>
>
> Woody
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Rob Alexander <ga...@autumnwood.us> wrote:
>
> What you and Steve said ring true. We wouldn’t invest in the negotiations
> without getting the league approval first. My guess is that we would never
> know if the SEC didn’t approve it (beyond rumors) because we wouldn’t
> announce it; we would just hire someone else.
>
>
>
> I’m not speaking to whether we actually are going for Kelly... that’s
> still just rumor... but if we do, then we will have already cleared it with
> the SEC beforehand. The more I have read about the Oregon situation, the
> less it bothers me about him personally. I will assume they are doing their
> due diligence and if they hire him, that they are satisfied he will run a
> clean program.
>
>
>
> I’d be happy with the hire. I think Frost carries a higher upside for a
> lifetime legacy coach, though greater risk of failure, but Kelly and Frost
> are both the kind of exciting hire we need right now... especially if we
> want to save this recruiting class.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 8:02 PM, k...@kirkley.net wrote:
>
> The SEC office has already cleared Florida to pursue Kelly.  This was
> completed last Friday.
>
>
>
> I’m pretty sure that is where the first Kelly to Florida leaks started,
> although I admittedly have no inside information to support that statement.
>
>
>
> Ken Kirkley
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:58 PM -0500, "Woody" <gatorrr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Won't happen. Not unless they have a stronger argument... which I doubt
> would be the case. What could they really tell them that UF couldnt?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Charles Simpson <imaga...@outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
> The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on
> Kelly but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A&M yes.
> Charlie
>
> On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry <bar...@realtracs.com> wrote:
>
> You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as the
> old Southwest conference.
>
> There’s no way we’re going there again.
>
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>
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>
>
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC
> can stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
>
> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody <gatorrr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have
> a show-cause it has to go through Sankey
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long
> since expired.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody <gatorrr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly.
> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not
> sure he will take that chance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is
> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to
> his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the
> fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to
> coach in the NFL.
>
>
>
> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach.
> JMO of course.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <
> k...@kirkley.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with
> a show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have
> had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the
> Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling.
>
>
>
> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the
> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
>
>
>
> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches,
> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and
> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com
> <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Woody
>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
> *To:* Gatortalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating
> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>
>
>
> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
>
>
>
> Woody
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry <bar...@realtracs.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or
> Tennessee.
>
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>
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>
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>
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>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Woody Bass <gatorrr...@gmail.com>
> *Date:* November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* *[gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but
> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com <http://CBSSports.com>*
> *Reply-To:* gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com
> <gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com>
>
>
> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/
> programs-may-be-salivating- over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-
> obstacles-to-his-return/
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-obstacles-to-his-return/>
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his
> return
>
> ·  By Dennis Dodd <https://www.cbssports.com/writers/dennis-dodd/>Oct 4,
> 2017
>
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
>
> Never mind the former Oregon
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/page/OREG/oregon-ducks>
> coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this
> season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a
> sideline.
>
> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch
> Jones at Tennessee
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/TENN/tennessee-volunteers>.
>
>
> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined
> baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball
> revealed last week
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-sports-headed-for-reboot-in-midst-of-potentially-its-biggest-scandal-since-1950s/>
> .
>
> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after
> he had left for the Philadelphia Eagles
> <https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/PHI/philadelphia-eagles>. He
> was slapped with "failure to monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/with-a-chance-to-send-a-message-ncaa-whiffs-in-oregon-case/>.
> Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in
> abstentia -- after he went to the NFL.
>
> Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in
> exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much.
> <http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/Oregon-Football-NCAA-Report.pdf>
>
> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was
> accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants
> to influence players to sign with the shoe giant.
>
> While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for
> decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into
> football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples
> that 7-on-7 is becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know,
> backroom deals being struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high
> school coach further and further out of the loop.
>
> "I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access
> and influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade.
> "The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I
> made a mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong."
>
> The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of
> God into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly
> slowed considerably for the moment.
>
> The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how
> scared college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At
> worst, guys like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems
> finding work as a new normal settles over compliance departments.
>
> One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a
> coach with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter
> what you hired him for, he may have restrictions."
>
> Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a
> sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal.
>
> The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires
> a coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to
> his new place of work.
>
> How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier. Indiana
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/IND/indiana-hoosiers>
> fired basketball coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made
> improper calls to recruits for a second time. The NCAA rules have since
> been changed so that sort of conduct wouldn't be a violation today.
>
> Sampson currently coaches at Houston
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/HOU/houston-cougars>.
>
>
> Florida Atlantic
> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/FAU/florida-atlantic-owls>
> officials are looking into how such a show-cause penalty might affect
> defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do his job. Lane KIffin's
> brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the NCAA of violations during
> his time with Rebels.
>
> One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by FAU
> officials.
>
> Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got back
> into college coaching.
>
> In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. While a return to
> the pros doesn't seem imminent, his college coaching rep remains burnished.
>
>
>
>
>
> Woody
>
>
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