Both coaches said they didn’t know, only they know the truth. But Bowden’s 
total also includes wins from Samford when it was Howard University before it 
was a division 1 school. 

GoGators!!!
Mark

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> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:33 PM, Foley Santamaria <foleysantama...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm no Bowden fan, but Whitley's right. Child molestation is unspeakably 
> horrific and what Bowden did was comparatively nothing. More NCAA hypocrisy 
> 
> Foley
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:18 PM Charlie <imaga...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> I try to not speak bad of the dead. I'm sure BB did many wonderful things in 
>> his life but the moniker St. Bobby wasn't exactly correct. I think he 
>> encouraged questionable conduct on the field. (echo of the whistle) and 
>> having his bench warmers start a fight with the other teams starters prior 
>> to kickoff. Whitley is trying to be Dooley 2.0.
>> Charlie
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:45 PM 'Oliver Barry' via GatorTalk 
>>> <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> I have a good question. What the heck is wrong with Whitley?
>>> 
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>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Shane Ford <goufgator...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: August 10, 2021 at 8:46:05 AM CDT
>>>> To: GatorNews <gatorn...@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]:  Whitley: Bowden should be all-time winningest 
>>>> coach
>>>> Reply-To: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Whitley: Bowden should be all-time winningest coach
>>>> David Whitley
>>>> The Gainesville Sun
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Before we ponder whether Minecraft will become an Olympic sport, allow me 
>>>> to ask a question as eternal as the Olympic flame:
>>>> 
>>>> What the heck is wrong with the NCAA?
>>>> 
>>>> The outrage I have in mind isn’t new, but Bobby Bowden’s death makes it 
>>>> freshly relevant. In a just world, he would be the all-time leader in wins 
>>>> for “major” college programs with 388 victories. But the Keystone NCAA 
>>>> Cops stripped FSU of 12 wins in 2010 as part of an academic cheating 
>>>> scandal.
>>>> 
>>>> More:Bobby Bowden dies: Legendary coach built Florida State into college 
>>>> football powerhouse
>>>> 
>>>> Remembering a legend:Gators notebook: Coaches pay tribute to FSU legendary 
>>>> coach Bobby Bowden
>>>> 
>>>> A tribute:Whitley: Saint Bobby is the ultimate class act
>>>> 
>>>> At issue was an online music appreciation course that jocks used to pad 
>>>> their grades in 2006-07. An investigation found Bowden was unaware of the 
>>>> crip course, but the buck stopped at the top.
>>>> 
>>>> Fair enough, but compare that to the all-time leader in wins, Joe Paterno. 
>>>> He finished with 409 wins, but the NCAA stripped him of 111 after Penn 
>>>> State’s sexual-molestation scandal. Pennsylvania lawmakers sued, and the 
>>>> NCAA restored the wins in 2015 as part of the settlement.
>>>> 
>>>> Let’s recap:
>>>> 
>>>> FSU self-reported the infraction. It gave up victories in five sports, 
>>>> including the 2007 men’s track and field national championship. And it was 
>>>> all over one online music course.
>>>> 
>>>> Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky was convicted of 45 counts of 
>>>> sex abuse of young boys. At best, a clueless Paterno spent decades missing 
>>>> the disturbing clues around his program.
>>>> 
>>>> At worst, he turned a blind eye, passed responsibility to his superiors 
>>>> (some of whom ended up in jail) and willingly covered up the worst scandal 
>>>> in college football history.
>>>> 
>>>> Paterno got to keep all his wins. Bowden did not.
>>>> 
>>>> NCAA logic at work. ...
>>>> 
>>>> The SEC’s Toughest Man Competition might go to LSU quarterback Myles 
>>>> Brennan. He was loading up a boat for a fishing trip when he tripped and 
>>>> broke his arm.
>>>> 
>>>> Brennan thought it was just bruised and went fishing. Turns out he’d 
>>>> fractured his upper arm so badly that surgeons had to insert screws and 
>>>> plates to repair it.
>>>> 
>>>> You have to be one tough hombre to go fishing with a shattered arm. I just 
>>>> hope Brennan caught a big one, because he’s going to miss at least half 
>>>> the football season. ...
>>>> 
>>>> Current and former Florida athletes finished with 17 medals at the Tokyo 
>>>> Olympics. That would have placed UF in 17th in the medal count if it were 
>>>> a country.
>>>> 
>>>> Georgia finished with eight medals. And it still has not won a national 
>>>> championship since Herschel Walker roamed the Earth. ...
>>>> 
>>>> After participating in and watching dozens of preseason football 
>>>> interviews, one question remains. What’s the difference between a player’s 
>>>> “skills” and his “skill set”? ...
>>>> 
>>>> Speaking of interviews, if you want to know why media members revered 
>>>> Bobby Bowden, a quick story. At the height of Michael Jackson’s fame, a 
>>>> Tallahassee TV reporter asked FSU’s coach to do an interview wearing one 
>>>> sequined glove, which was Jackson’s trademark.
>>>> 
>>>> Bowden put on the glove, propped his elbow on the back of a couch and 
>>>> answered a bunch of football-related questions. His deadpan routine was 
>>>> unrivaled in coaching history until Nick Saban bit the head off a bat. ...
>>>> 
>>>> Speaking of St. Nick, Alabama’s board of trustees approved his contract 
>>>> extension last week. Saban will average $10.6 million a year through 2028.
>>>> 
>>>> He’ll be worth every penny, but talk about salary inflation. You know what 
>>>> FSU paid Bowden annually when he arrived in 1976?
>>>> 
>>>> $37,500, but they probably threw in moving expenses. ...
>>>> 
>>>> The Florida Panthers signed Miami Hurricanes quarterback D’Eriq King to an 
>>>> NIL deal Monday. In related news, the Tampa Bay Lightning announced they’d 
>>>> signed Vinny Testaverde as a backup goalie. ...
>>>> 
>>>> The Dodgers’ trade for Max Scherzer last week was almost scuttled because 
>>>> Scherzer would have to pay about $1 million more in taxes if he moved to 
>>>> California. After a brief stalemate, L.A. agreed to pay Scherzer’s tax 
>>>> bill.
>>>> 
>>>> I have no editorial comment other than to say if the L.A. Times wants to 
>>>> hire me, my tax bill is negotiable. And I would write on only three days 
>>>> rest. ...
>>>> 
>>>> Correction — Ozzy Osbourne bit the head off a bat, not Nick Saban. The Sun 
>>>> regrets the error. ... 
>>>> 
>>>> Four of the six medals in Olympic women’s skateboarding went to 
>>>> competitors 13 or younger. In its quest to appeal to young viewers active 
>>>> on social media, the International Olympic Committee is adding the ancient 
>>>> Greek sport of breakdancing to the 2024 Paris Games.
>>>> 
>>>> At this rate, the 2028 L.A. Olympics will replace wrestling with a TikTok 
>>>> competition. ...
>>>> 
>>>> I don't want to say Michael Jackson was ahead of his time, but he was 
>>>> wearing a glove and a mask decades before anyone ever heard of Wuhan, 
>>>> China. Not that anyone really wanted to be like Mike. ...
>>>> 
>>>> Bears rookie QB Justin Fields adheres to a plant-based diet and plans to 
>>>> open a vegan pizza shop in Chicago. That sound you just heard was Mike 
>>>> Ditka choking on a 24-ounce porterhouse. ...
>>>> 
>>>> Today in History: 1944 — U.S. defeated Japan in Battle of Guam. The NCAA 
>>>> later overturned the decision after it was determined a few Marines took a 
>>>> bogus online music course. ...
>>>> 
>>>> That’s all the space we have for this week’s Whitley’s Believe It or Not. 
>>>> If it taxed your reading skill set, look at the bright side. The tax would 
>>>> have been a lot worse in California.
>>>> 
>>>> — David Whitley is The Gainesville Sun's sports columnist. Contact him at 
>>>> dwhit...@gannett.com. And follow him on Twitter: @DavidEWhitley
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Shane’s iPhone
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