Bloot, You have just comitted the faus pas of the list's history. Equating the two gentlemen on the score of English is patently flawed.
Mr. Bondyopadhyay was born with what can safely be termed as a bastardised linguistic legacy. While his mother and father tongues are Odiya and Bangla respectively, his entire education has been in what is claimed to be the national language of India, i.e. Hindi, a laguage that he loves but refuses to accord the 'national' status to, for reasons that are another thesis altogether much beyond the scope of this correspondence. English certainly is Mr. Bonyopadhyay's step-mother tongue, and a testament to his amiable nature that he can be reasonable in handling it, although the chinks in his English armour are clearly obvious to the likes of Mr. White, the real progenies of the language. Real progenies of course enjoy their added advantage. One can after all take liberties with mom that one most likely will not with step-mom. So for example, a Mr. White can patronise an email name like 'usjerzeeboy'! Comprised of three distinct parts, the 'us' obviously signifies a nationality, of a country whose waning economic, political, and military influences is ever perfectly counter balanced by its inexhaustable desire for hegemony in every sphere, including English of course. The 'jerzee' part is where the real liberties lie. If Jerzee is a real place in that great nation of hegemons, I take back everything I am about to commit to print hereafter. Only, it just does not show up in my geography references, which makes me think it is the liberty induced take on 'Jersy'. There is such a place there, but with a prefix 'New' added to the name (isn't everything there 'new' and lacking in history..!?) which Mr. White can conveniently (or intentinally, do take your pick) discard. The 'Jersy' that is not 'new' just happens to be across the pond from the 'new' Jersy, and is credited with providing the 'holy cows' that sustain the world's diary industry. So its avoidance is exactly the kind of liberty with confused geography that a true progeny can take, not to speak of the spelling 'jerzee' itself, (creating an 'oh zee..!!' moment for all and sundry). The third part 'boy' is clearly aspirational, for someone with Mr white's depth cannot be such a green-horn. I shall not comment on this except maybe to point out the safety that the boy finds in the bosom of mother English, for I shall know he has grown up when I see him make a similar attempt with being amiable to Odiya, Bangla, and Hindi, as I have been to step-mom English. I do wish him growth and hope he steps out of his linguistic cocoon to embrace these other linguistic gems and that this for him does not remain forever 'better never than late' Best, Mr. Bondyopadhyay On 7/27/10, Bloot Fontaine <[email protected]> wrote: > Moderator, please, please, please, do keep posting these verbal jousts. > Hilarious! Congrats to both true gentlemen with an excellent command over > English. > > --- On Tue, 27/7/10, usjerzeeboy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: usjerzeeboy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 2:26 AM > > > > > > > Dear Aditya Bondyopadhyay, > > Mr. White is also mighty pleased that you have found pleasure in his > musings. > > Mr. White is also mighty please that Mr. Bondyopadhyay concedes his > mistake...a beginning maybe, but it is always better late than never. > > Regrettably, Mr. Bondyopadhyay, the subject title Judgmental Mr. > Bondyopadhyay > was added after the fact by a person(s). It was inappropriate to say the > least > for > > someone to credit me with words that I did not commit to print. Should you > doubt my word, I would be happy to forward the original email. > > Mr. White is at a loss to understand what Mr. Bondyopadhyay is attempting to > convey when he states, "intentional use of caveatful terminology..." > While > Mr. White is well aware of what a caveat is ( a warning, a caution or > admonition), he was, after gleaning through various dictionaries, unable to > locate a reference to caveatful. > > Ostensibly, English may not be Mr. Bondyopadhyay's mother tongue and as > such, > the grammatical error can be excused. > > While Mr. Bondyopadhyay's grammatical error may be forgiven (actually > congratulations are offered as Mr. Bondyopadhyay works to augment his > vocabulary > > and use of the English language...a beginning maybe, but always better late > than > never), the question begging to be asked is what was Mr. Bondyopadhyay > > warning us, the readers of his two liner, of ? Perhaps Mr. Bondyopadhyay > was > exercising his civic duty and wanted to alert us to reinforcing stereotypes > perhaps or God forbid, something heinous like a less than rational > hysterical > queen. > > Perhaps Mr. Bondyopadhyay should stay clear of the rhetoric and concentrate > on > that which he knows best. That, Mr. Bondyopadhyay, remains your secret > and yours alone > > and Mr. White will leave you alone to savor those secrets (my humblest > apologies as I took the liberty of correcting some of the > morphological errors). > > Best Regards, yours sincerely, > Ray White > > ==== > i gave the subject heading.. i feltthe writer's email implied that... > regards moderator > > ________________________________ > From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 3:08:45 AM > Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay > > > Dear Ray White, > > Mr Bondyopadhyay is mighty pleased that his two liner has helped you wonder > so > much. A beginning maybe, but its always better late than never. To wonder is > wonderful. > > Mr Bondyopadhyay concedes his mistake in thinking that the name of the GB > party > is "Let's Scream" and not the name of the venue. That mistake was pointed > out by > another two liner and was well taken. And having acknowledged that, Mr. > Bondyopadhyay wholeheartedly agrees, stemming as it does from his limited > experience in such spaces, that there can be no better or more apt name for > a > disco than "Let's Scream". Mr. Bondyopadhyay's numb eardrums that lasted 3 > days > post the last such experience is a mighty testament to that. > > As to Mr. Bondyopadhyay being judgmental, in spite of Mr Bondyopadhyay's > intentional use of caveatful terminology like 'stereotype' et al, that > remains > your wonder and your alone...and Mr. Bondyopadhyay leaves your alone to > savor > them at your wonderful best. > > Wonderfully yours, > Mr Bondyopadhyay > > On 25 July 2010 08:36, usjerzeeboy <usjerzeeboy@ yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay thinks Let's Scream is the name of the Gay >> Bombay >>party. The information in the message clearly states that..."Let's Scream >> is an >>uber cool disco..." >> >>I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay is concerned with the indivindual who first >>coined the names for the Gay Bombay parties...I mean aren't they ALL GB >> parties >>held at various venues? >> >> >>I wonder if Mr. Bondypadhyay realizes that by using the word orginally >> implies >>that the name for the GB parties have changed. My notifications still >> appear as >>G B Party at and then the relevant information. What has changed? >> >>I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay thinks this is an unusual name for a >> disco...I >>mean I see the possibly connections between a disco and the name Scream. >> >>I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay thinks advertising this event with the name >> of >>the venue will "somehow reinforce the stereotype of the less than rational >>hysterical gay queen"? I mean if the group doesn't advertise the name of >> the >>venue, how will one know where the party is? If a different venue is >> chosen, >>will different stereotypes somehow be reinforced? >> >>I wonder why Mr. Bondypadhyay feels the need to make value judgments on the >> >>stereotype of a gay queen such as less than rational and hysterical? I >> know >>"queens" who are far from being less than rational nor have I ever >> witnessed >>anyone of them being hysterical. >> >>I wonder if Mr. Bondypadhyay means to say that if you are more than >> rational but >>still hysterical the reinforcement of your sterotype is also at risk for >> being >>reinforced or does he simply mean that gay queens who are more than (as >> opposed >>to those less than) rational, have no worries of their stereotypes being >>reinforced? >> >>I wonder....I wonder....I wonder.... >> >>With best regards, yours sincerely, >>Ray White >>-:(sent from my HP Pavillion zd8000):- >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ > From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay <adit.b...@gmail. com> >>To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com >>Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 6:12:29 AM >>Subject: Re: g_b GB Party at LETS SCREAM on 24 July 2010 Saturday Nite >> Party. >> >> >>Who was originally responsible for this unusual nomenclature for the GB >> parties, >>I wonder..!? I also wonder if advertising this event with this name somehow >> >>reinforces the stereotype of the less than rational hysterical gay queen. >> >>With best regards, yours sincerely, >>Aditya Bondyopadhyay >>-:(Sent from my Nokia-E63):- >> >>-x- >> >> >>On 22 July 2010 08:15, Dee <luvde...@yahoo. com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>GB Party at LET’S SCREAM on 24 July 2010 – It’s a Saturday Nite Party. >>> >>>Located in the commercial heart of South Bombay, Let’s Scream is an >>> uber-cool >>>disco famous for its great music and a pulsating sound system that will >>> simply >>>blow you away. >>> >>> >>>Date: 24 July 2010 – It’s a Saturday Nite Party >>>Venue: Walchand Hirachand Marg, Straight from General Post Office (GPO), >>> near VT >>>station, five buildings away from Railway hotel on the opposite side.Next >>> Jahaz >>>Bhuvan, Ballard Pier. Mumbai-400001. >>> >>>Cover Charge: Rs 400/- (to defray the expenses of the party) >>>NO CREDIT CARDS >>> >>>The Cover Charge includes: >>>Two Drinks >>>In-house DJ and a dance floor which would play a mix of Bollywood as well >>> as >>>English Rock >>> >>>Light snacks like wafers, peanuts. >>>Extra drinks will be sold at Rs 50/- to Rs 100/- per drink. >>>Please note that you have to be above the age of 21 to attend GB >>>par-ties. Please carry proof of age with you, such as driving license, >>> college >>>identity card. >>> >>>Some don'ts: >>>This is a comfort/safe space for everyone. Many people at the event >>>may be "newbies" (those still coming to terms with their sexuality >>>and/or those who have mustered the courage to come to such an event >>>for the first time). We request you to be sensitive to the comfort >>>levels of others and to behave and dress accordingly. >>> >>>A few dos: >>>Have a smashing time. >>>Carry your Alcoholic Drinks Permit. >>> >>>This is a >>>http://www.facebook.com/l/788b2fwem5Q98WTmvg8ZUaQDvNQ;www.gaybombay.org >>> event. >>>Rights of admission reserved. >>>------------ -------- >>> >>> >>I >> > > -- > -- > ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY > Development Sector Consultant > Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) > > Website: http://adityabondyo padhyay.webs. com/ > ============ ========= ========= == > Notice to all recipients: > Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to > be > treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. 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