I think it is unfortunate that the word GAY is our label. ( Gay used to mean happy, carefree, and maybe even a little simple minded.) I equate my sexuality with all of our great predecessors: Alexander the Great, Leonardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo,Walt Whitman, Baudelaire, Proust, Melville, Williams, Gertrude Stein, Cole Porter....so many great men and women thru out the ages. Thousands of great gays. Millions and millions of gays. So if they were "gay" then I guess it's not so bad to be "gay." Is it ???? Gordon Micunis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- In a message dated 3/24/2011 1:51:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, charleston...@yahoo.com writes:
I don't wear clothing that bear the name or label that can visibally be seen. That does not mean that I don't like the fashion. Quite the opposite, to many a label makes them and who they are more acceptable with others who dawn the same perspective..."to fit in." The reality of my disposition being "same gender" preference does not "fit' me into a catagory or label, "gay" I am and will always be "same gender preference," and in being so I have a responsibility to myself to engage in a lifestyle that supports who I am rather than who I am not, "a starved and sex craving lunetick" the common edict that is charactoristic of the label, "Gay." No doubt...I am better than, "Gay." ____________________________________ From: Mike Milton <mmilto...@yahoo.com> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 4:13:49 PM Subject: Re: g_b I am proud to be gay Amen Sanjay Lulla .... very well said ... ____________________________________ From: Sanjay Lulla <sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 5:50:22 AM Subject: Re: g_b I am proud to be gay My Dears may this serve as an encouragement and inspiration to the newbies, those who are coming to terms with their sexuality. Let us not forget that it is a trying and traumatic journey to come to terms with ones self and to accept what he/she is. During those times the person would wonder whats there to be proud of? When one comes to terms with oneself then the battle is won. That is the most difficult part. Once we accept our self and realize that there is nothing to feel guilty about or to feel ashamed off, then one can say to others "I AM GAY" and yes that's being proud!!! :-) God bless little prince-Sanjay N Lulla ____________________________________ From: Mark Bucknam <markdeafga...@yahoo.com> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 3:02:08 AM Subject: Re: g_b I am proud to be gay i agree with u smile! iam proud of who am i? --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Deep <gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: Deep <gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in> Subject: g_b I am proud to be gay To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 6:39 AM Hey Sanjay! It is great that you have decided to start posting on this forum. Don't worry about upsetting people Sanjay. You can never please everyone all the time. :-) Here is what Wikipedia has to say about Gay Pride: LGBT pride or gay pride is the concept that lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people should be proud of their sexual orientation and gender identity.The movement has three main premises: that people should be proud of their sexual orientation and gender identity, that diversity is a gift, and that sexual orientation and gender identity are inherent and cannot be intentionally altered. The use of the abbreviated gay pride and pride have since become mainstream and shorthand expressions inclusive of all individuals in various LGBT communities. The word pride is used in this case as an antonym for shame, which has been used to control and oppress LGBT persons throughout history. Pride in this sense is an affirmation of one's self and the community as a whole. The modern "pride" movement began after the "Stonewall riots" in 1969. Instead of backing down to unconstitutional raids by New York Police, gay people in local bars fought back. While it was a violent situation it also gave the underground community the first sense of communal pride in a very well publicized incident. From the yearly parade that commemorated the anniversary of the Stonewall riots began a national grassroots movement. Today many countries around the world celebrate LGBT pride. The pride movement has furthered the cause of gay rights by lobbying politicians, registering voters and increasing visibility to educate on issues important to LGBT communities. LGBT pride advocates work for equal "rights and benefits" for LGBT people. In your opinion gay love (romantic love between members of the same gender) is weaker than heterosexual love. I shall answer that love can be as strong as the lovers want it to be. Society in general does not approve of same sex love. Nor does it approve of masturbation. Yet we all do it. The feelings that you and I have deep inside us do not change whether we are in Scandinavia or in Afghanistan. We have a choice to accept our emotions, desires and feelings and work with them or feel dejected and cheated by nature and make our own lives miserable. If you feel that having multiple sex partners debases you in your own eyes, don't have them. Look instead for a monogamous partner and stick to him. Different people have different needs and it takes all kinds to make the world. Heterosexuals celebrate their sexual orientation all the time! Don't believe me? Look around you. Do you see a woman wearing a Mangal Sutra? Do you see a man keeping a picture of his wife and kids on his workstation? Do you see a marriage procession inching down a busy road with the groom in full regalia? Heterosexuals don't need to advertise themselves! Society is created around their needs and desires. We homosexuals need to show our own needs and desires in a repressive society. And till such time we don't get equal rights we shall, perforce, call our celebrations as "Pride". My homosexuality is nothing that I have "won". Yet I have to struggle to make society accept it so that I may live the way I want. Hence I must proclaim my orientation which, to me, is natural but to others is an abomination. Do keep posting in. I believe that the contents of your post did not fit the chain's subject hence I changed it. Regards, Deep http://gaynotes.blogspot.com --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, hgjk hgkhj <sanjayramani_2003@...> wrote: > > This is my first mail and do not want to offend anyone. These are just my > personal opinions > > Everytime i hear/read this statement "I am proud to be gay", i feel awkward. > Even if i was hetro it wud be awkward for me to say "I am proud to be a hetro". > I would be proud of things i earned and definately this state of mind so called > "homo" is definately not i earned, it is just there by one reason or the other. > So first of all "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement. > > But i think i agree with mike with the reason of having multiple partners. > Society does not confirm the state of being gay and thats y most of the > people like to have "discreet" liasons which makes us wild, unbounded, restless, > limitless, pervert animals, which perfectly reason with as society does not > confirm this sexuality, we will not confirm the rules made by it. There is no > such things like commitment in our relationship as there is no society to look > after it. > > Over this i would like to say commitment thing is never going to happen as the > bond between man to man is joined by very weak force though it is equally weak > as the bond between man and woman but the later one is supported by other n > number of factors one of those is kids. Kids become their common interest when > other interest are lost or satiated. Now this is tricky part as now the faith on > marriage is loosing its magic, people are gradually coming out of those rules > which were there from the ages. So that means if the commitments by the natural > sexuality is wanning how one can even think of plutonic love or just say love > commitments. > > Anyways..once again "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement.
