http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=blacklist

http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=spam+blacklist

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=blacklist+spam&btnG=Google+Search


http://www.google.com/search?q=site:kuro5hin.org+blacklist+spam&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N

That should keep you busy for the next few hours... I don't really see a 
need for the GB list to discuss the topic; it's been beaten to death 
elsewhere and all the POVs are readily available with the above searches 
or ones like them. No sense in the continued flogging of equestrian 
mammals.

My personal experience: I've been using MAPS at our site, ~150 users, for 
a little over a year now, with a sendmail relay. Every message I bounce 
from the MAPS lists bounces with the following text:

Rejected - see<http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/>or call Ed at 650 801 7366

We average 100 blocks daily with an all time high of over 4000 in one 24 
hour period; I've received precisely 1 call in over a year of doing this. 
A very low false positive rate, and acceptable to our business. YMMV.

Regards,

Ed Hintz
Network Systems Administrator
Natus Medical Inc.
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"Michael O'Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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David,

Could you suggest the appropriate venue for continuing this?  Frankly, as 
a GNATBox user I think this discussion is very relevant and on-topic.

This discussion could prove valuable in demonstrating to management why a
product that includes BL capability is desirable (or not), it provides
valuable background information on the entire BL "solution" AKA
"controversy," and it's getting the word out about other potential
solutions for SPAM and about current BL sites.

Of course, I'm just one of thsoe silly customers...

Michael O'Quinn


On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, david raistrick wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> 
> > blacklists are fundamentally wrong.  They break end to end 
connectivity of
> > the net and nab a fair number of innocent users (i.e. telecommuters,
> > small-scale mail systems etc.) in addition to catching the occasional 
spammer.
> 
> 
> Threads regarding the fundamental correctness of blocking email or other
> network connections are very far off topic for this list.  Please 
restrict
> such replies to off-list.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Threads relating to the technical aspects of such blocking (as well as 
how
> to, or how not to implement such blocking) are welcome.
> 
> ...david
> 
> 
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> David Raistrick
>                Systems Administrator - Global Technology Associates, Inc
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>         David Raistrick, not necessarily those of GTA, Inc.
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