On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Bin.Cheng <amker.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Bin.Cheng <amker.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Bin Cheng <bin.ch...@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> This patch removes support for -funsafe-loop-optimizations, as well as 
>>>>> -Wunsafe-loop-optimizations.  By its name, this option does unsafe 
>>>>> optimizations by assuming all loops must terminate and doesn't wrap.  
>>>>> Unfortunately, it's not as useful as expected because:
>>>>> 1) Simply assuming loop must terminate isn't enough.  What we really want 
>>>>> is to analyze scalar evolution and loop niter bound under such 
>>>>> assumptions.  This option does nothing in this aspect.
>>>>> 2) IIRC, this option generates bogus code for some common programs, 
>>>>> that's why it's disabled by default even at Ofast level.
>>>>>
>>>>> After I sent patches handling possible infinite loops in both 
>>>>> (scev/niter) analyzer and vectorizer, it's a natural step to remove such 
>>>>> options in GCC.  This patch does so by deleting code for 
>>>>> -funsafe-loop-optimizations, as well as -Wunsafe-loop-optimizations.  It 
>>>>> also deletes the two now useless tests, while the option interface is 
>>>>> preserved for backward compatibility purpose.
>>>>
>>>> There are a number of bugs opened against those options, including one
>>>> that I just opened rather recently:
>>>>
>>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=71769
>>>>
>>>> but some go back far, in this case 9 years:
>>>>
>>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=34114
>>>>
>>>> If you are going to remove the options, you should address open bugs
>>>> related to those options.
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks for pointing me to these PRs, I will have a look at them.
>>
>> I only highlighted two PRs, I was suggesting that you look for all of them.
>>
>>> IMHO, the old one reports weakness in loop niter analyzer, the issue
>>> exists whether I remove unsafe-loop-optimization or not.  The new one
>>> is a little bit trickier, I will put some comments on PR, and again,
>>> the issue (if it is) is in niter analyzer which has nothing to do with
>>> the option really.
>>
>> Well, one thing to note is that the warning is an easy way to get a
>> notice of a possible missed optimization (and I have many more
>> occurrences of it in a particular code base that I use).  If the
>> warning is highlighted potential issues that aren't due to the -f
>> option but are issues nonetheless, and we remove the warning, then how
>> should I go about finding these missed opportunities in the future?
>> Is there a different mechanism that does the same thing?
> Hmm, good point, I will iterate the patch to see if I can only remove
> -funsafe-loop-optimizations, while keep -Wunsafe-loop-optimizations.

Of course the naming of -Wunsafe-loop-optimizations is misleading then.
Maybe provide an alias -Wmissed-loop-optimizations and re-word it to
say "disable _some_ loop optimizations" as I hope more loop optimizations
get aware of "assumptions" and deal with them.

Richard.

> Thanks,
> bin

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