Hi JangNing (please reply inline in the future as that is the preferred style 
on this mailing list)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: JiangNing OS <jiangn...@os.amperecomputing.com>
> Sent: 01 May 2020 11:49
> To: Richard Earnshaw <richard.earns...@foss.arm.com>; Kyrylo Tkachov
> <kyrylo.tkac...@arm.com>; Andrew Pinski <pins...@gmail.com>; Florian
> Weimer <fwei...@redhat.com>
> Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org; nmeye...@amzn.com
> Subject: RE: Should ARMv8-A generic tuning default to -moutline-atomics
> 
> In reality, a lot of users are still using old gcc versions running on new
> hardware. OpenJDK is a typical example, I think.

Although this option is not an ABI change and thus I don't expect it to break 
anything by design, it is definitely good to be cautious as it is a significant 
change in code generation. Let's wait for a few weeks to make sure the default 
change in GCC 10.1 works for everyone and then revisit the backport story. In 
any case, GCC 9 and 8 are not extremely close to release currently IIUC.

Thanks,
Kyrill

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Earnshaw <richard.earns...@foss.arm.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 6:41 PM
> > To: JiangNing OS <jiangn...@os.amperecomputing.com>; Kyrylo Tkachov
> > <kyrylo.tkac...@arm.com>; Andrew Pinski <pins...@gmail.com>; Florian
> > Weimer <fwei...@redhat.com>
> > Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org; nmeye...@amzn.com
> > Subject: Re: Should ARMv8-A generic tuning default to -moutline-atomics
> >
> > On 01/05/2020 11:38, JiangNing OS via Gcc-patches wrote:
> > > Hi Kyrill,
> > >
> > > Can it be backported to gcc 8/9/10 branches?
> > >
> >
> > I'm not sure changing the defaults of things like this is a good idea on 
> > 'dot'
> > releases.
> >
> > Having the option is one thing.  Changing the default another thing 
> > entirely.
> >
> > R.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Jiangning
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Gcc-patches <gcc-patches-boun...@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of
> > >> Kyrylo Tkachov
> > >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:27 PM
> > >> To: Kyrylo Tkachov <kyrylo.tkac...@arm.com>; Andrew Pinski
> > >> <pins...@gmail.com>; Florian Weimer <fwei...@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org; nmeye...@amzn.com
> > >> Subject: RE: Should ARMv8-A generic tuning default to
> > >> -moutline-atomics
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Gcc-patches <gcc-patches-boun...@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of
> > >>> Kyrylo Tkachov
> > >>> Sent: 30 April 2020 11:57
> > >>> To: Andrew Pinski <pins...@gmail.com>; Florian Weimer
> > >>> <fwei...@redhat.com>
> > >>> Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org; nmeye...@amzn.com
> > >>> Subject: RE: Should ARMv8-A generic tuning default to
> > >>> -moutline-atomics
> > >>>
> > >>> [Moving to gcc-patches]
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Gcc <gcc-boun...@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of Andrew Pinski
> via
> > >>>> Gcc
> > >>>> Sent: 30 April 2020 07:21
> > >>>> To: Florian Weimer <fwei...@redhat.com>
> > >>>> Cc: GCC Mailing List <g...@gcc.gnu.org>; nmeye...@amzn.com
> > >>>> Subject: Re: Should ARMv8-A generic tuning default to
> > >>>> -moutline-atomics
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 6:25 AM Florian Weimer via Gcc
> > >>>> <g...@gcc.gnu.org>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Distributions are receiving requests to build things with
> > >>>>> -moutline-atomics:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>   <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=956418>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Should this be reflected in the GCC upstream defaults for ARMv8-A
> > >>>>> generic tuning?  It does not make much sense to me if every
> > >>>>> distribution has to overide these flags, either in their build
> > >>>>> system or by patching GCC.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At least we should make it a configure option.
> > >>>> I do want the ability to default it for our (Marvell) toolchain for
> > >>>> Linux (our bare metal toolchain will be defaulting to ARMv8.2-a
> > >>>> anyways).
> > >>>
> > >>> After some internal discussions, I am open to having it on as a default.
> > >>> Here are two versions. One has it as a tuning setting that CPUs can
> > >>> override, the other just switches it on by default always unless
> > >>> overridden by -mno- outline-atomics.
> > >>> I slightly prefer the second one as it's cleaner and simpler, but
> > >>> happy to take either.
> > >>> Any preferences?
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Kyrill
> > >>>
> > >>> ChangeLogs:
> > >>>
> > >>> 2020-04-30  Kyrylo Tkachov  <kyrylo.tkac...@arm.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>         * config/aarch64/aarch64-tuning-flags.def (no_outline_atomics):
> > >>> Declare.
> > >>>         * config/aarch64/aarch64.h (TARGET_OUTLINE_ATOMICS): Define.
> > >>>         * config/aarch64/aarch64.opt (moutline-atomics): Change to Int
> > >>> variable.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2020-04-30  Kyrylo Tkachov  <kyrylo.tkac...@arm.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>         * config/aarch64/aarch64.h (TARGET_OUTLINE_ATOMICS): Define.
> > >>>         * config/aarch64/aarch64.opt (moutline-atomics): Change to Int
> > >>> variable.
> > >>>         * doc/invoke.texi (moutline-atomics): Document as on by default.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> I've pushed this second variant after bootstrap and testing on
> > >> aarch64-none- linux-gnu.
> > >> Compiled a simple atomic-using testcase with all relevant
> > >> combinations of - moutline-atomics and LSE and no-LSE -march options.
> > >> Before the results were (as expected):
> > >>          |-moutline-atomics | -mno-outline-atomics | <no
> > >> outline-atomics option
> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> LSE      |  inline LSE      | inline LSE            | inline LSE
> > >> no-LSE   |  outline         | inline LDXR/STXR      | inline LDX/STXR
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> with this patch they are:
> > >>          -moutline-atomics  | -mno-outline-atomics | <no
> > >> outline-atomics option>
> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> LSE      |  inline LSE      | inline LSE           | inline LSE
> > >> no-LSE   |  outline         | inline LDXR/STXR     | outline
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Kyrill

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