On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, Jiufu Guo wrote:

> 
> Hi!
> 
> Richard Biener <rguent...@suse.de> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2022, Jiufu Guo wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> Hi!
> >> 
> >> Richard Biener <rguent...@suse.de> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022, Jiufu Guo wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Jiufu Guo <guoji...@linux.ibm.com> writes:
> >> >> 
> >> >> Hi!
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Hi Sehger,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Segher Boessenkool <seg...@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 10:28:57PM +0800, Jiufu Guo wrote:
> >> >> >>> Segher Boessenkool <seg...@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
> >> >> >>> > No.  insn_cost is only for correct, existing instructions, not for
> >> >> >>> > made-up nonsense.  I created insn_cost precisely to get away from 
> >> >> >>> > that
> >> >> >>> > aspect of rtx_cost (and some other issues, like, it is incredibly 
> >> >> >>> > hard
> >> >> >>> > and cumbersome to write a correct rtx_cost).
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> Thanks! The implementations of hook insn_cost are align with this
> >> >> >>> design, they are  checking insn's attributes and COSTS_N_INSNS.
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> One question on the speciall case: 
> >> >> >>> For instruction: "r119:DI=0x100803004101001"
> >> >> >>> Would we treat it as valid instruction?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Currently we do, alternative 6 in *movdi_internal64: we allow any 
> >> >> >> r<-n.
> >> >> >> This is costed as 5 insns (cost=20).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It generally is better to split things into patterns close to the
> >> >> >> eventual machine isntructions as early as possible: all the more 
> >> >> >> generic
> >> >> >> optimisations can take advantage of that then.
> >> >> > Get it!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> A patch, which is attached the end of this mail, accepts
> >> >> >>> "r119:DI=0x100803004101001" as input of insn_cost.
> >> >> >>> In this patch, 
> >> >> >>> - A tmp instruction is generated via make_insn_raw.
> >> >> >>> - A few calls to rtx_cost (in cse_insn) is replaced by insn_cost.
> >> >> >>> - In hook of insn_cost, checking the special 'constant' instruction.
> >> >> >>> Are these make sense?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'll review that patch inline.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I drafted a new patch that replace rtx_cost with insn_cost for cse.cc.
> >> >> Different from the previous partial patch, this patch replaces all usage
> >> >> of rtx_cost. It may be better/aggressive than previous one.
> >> >
> >> > I think there's no advantage for using insn_cost over rtx_cost for
> >> > the simple SET case.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your comments and raise this concern.
> >> 
> >> For those targets which do not implement insn_cost, insn_cost calls
> >> rtx_cost through pattern_cost, then insn_cost is equal to rtx_cost.
> >> 
> >> While, for those targets which have insn_cost, it seems insn_cost would
> >> be better(or say more accurate/consistent?) than rtx_cost. Since:
> >> - insn_cost recog the insn first, and compute cost through something
> >
> > target hooks are expected to call recog on the insn but the generic
> > fallback does not!?  Or do you say a target _could_ call recog?
> > I think it would be valid to only expect recognized insns here
> > and thus cse.cc obligation would be to call regoc on the "fake"
> > instruction which then raises the obvious issue whether you should
> > ever call recog on something "fake".
> Thanks Richard! I also feel this is a main point of insn_cost.
> From my understanding: it would be better to let insn_cost check
> the valid recognizable insns; this would be the major purpose of
> insn_cost.  While, I'm also wondering, we may let it go for 'fake'
> instruction for current implementations (e.g. arm_insn_cost) which
> behaviors to walk/check pattern. 

Note for the CSE case you'll always end up with the single move
pattern so it's somewhat pointless to do the recog & insn_cost
dance there.  For move cost using rtx_cost (SET, ..) should
be good enough.  One could argue we should standardize a (wrapping)
API like move_cost (enum machine_mode mode, rtx to, rtx from),
with to/from optional (if omitted a REG of MODE).  But the existing
rtx_cost target hook implementation should be sufficient to handle
it, without building a fake insn and without doing (the pointless,
if not failing) recog process.

Richard.

> >
> > I also see that rs6000_insn_cost does
> >
> > static int
> > rs6000_insn_cost (rtx_insn *insn, bool speed)
> > {
> >   if (recog_memoized (insn) < 0)
> >     return 0;
> >
> > so not recognized insns become quite cheap - it looks like
> > insn_cost has no documented failure mode and initial implementors
> > chickened out asserting that an insn is / can be recognized.
> > In fact I'd assert that INSN_CODE (insn) >= 0 simply because there's
> > no failure mode and the _caller_ should have made sure the
> > insn can be recognized.  That said, the insn_cost should do that.
> Thanks! Using the assert would help to catch un-recog failures.
> 
> > (is INSN_CODE () == 0 a real thing?)
> 0 is specialy, it is some thing like CODE_FOR_nothing. :-)
> 
> >
> >> (like length/cost attributes from .md file) for the 'machine insn'.
> >> - rtx_cost estimates the cost through analyzing the 'rtx content'.
> >> The accurate estimation relates to the context.
> >> 
> >> For a special example: "%r100 = C", as a previous patch, by tunning
> >> target's rtx_cost hook, cost could be computed according to the value
> >> of C. insn_cost may just model the cost in the define of the machine
> >> instruction.
> >> 
> >> These reasons are my initial thoughts.  Segher may have better
> >> explain. :-) 
> >
> > OK, so in theory the targets insn_cost can use insn attributes
> > which allows to keep the cost parts of an instruction close to the
> > instruction patterns which is probably a good thing for
> > maintainability.  But as you point out this requires recognizing
> > of possibly generated instructions.  And before reload it has
> > the issue that the alternative is not determined which means the
> > true cost cannot be determined without walking the pattern,
> > like on x86 where many instruction operands have both register
> > and memory alternatives.
> Right, when there is no alternative fits for true cost, it may have to
> check the pattern like 'rtx_cost' then. :-)
> 
> 
> BR,
> Jiufu
> 
> >
> >> To replace rtx_cost with insn_cost, this patch build a SET instruction:
> >> "%r = rtx_expr", then using "%r = rtx_expr" from insn_cost to simulate
> >> the cost of "rtx_expr" from rtx_cost.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> BR,
> >> Jiufu
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > Richard.
> >> >
> >> >> With this patch, bootstrap pass.
> >> >> From regtest, only output of fusion-p10-ldcmpi.c is changed, and the
> >> >> change seems as expected.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> BR,
> >> >> Jiufu
> >> >> 
> >> >> diff --git a/gcc/cse.cc b/gcc/cse.cc
> >> >> index a18b599d324..e623ad298db 100644
> >> >> --- a/gcc/cse.cc
> >> >> +++ b/gcc/cse.cc
> >> >> @@ -262,6 +262,9 @@ static struct qty_table_elem *qty_table;
> >> >>  static rtx_insn *this_insn;
> >> >>  static bool optimize_this_for_speed_p;
> >> >>  
> >> >> +/* Used for insn_cost. */
> >> >> +static rtx_insn *estimate_insn;
> >> >> +
> >> >>  /* Index by register number, gives the number of the next (or
> >> >>     previous) register in the chain of registers sharing the same
> >> >>     value.
> >> >> @@ -445,7 +448,7 @@ struct table_elt
> >> >>  /* Compute cost of X, as stored in the `cost' field of a table_elt.  
> >> >> Fixed
> >> >>     hard registers and pointers into the frame are the cheapest with a 
> >> >> cost
> >> >>     of 0.  Next come pseudos with a cost of one and other hard 
> >> >> registers with
> >> >> -   a cost of 2.  Aside from these special cases, call `rtx_cost'.  */
> >> >> +   a cost of 2.  Aside from these special cases, call `insn_cost'.  */
> >> >>  
> >> >>  #define CHEAP_REGNO(N)                                                 
> >> >> \
> >> >>    (REGNO_PTR_FRAME_P (N)                                               
> >> >> \
> >> >> @@ -698,18 +701,33 @@ preferable (int cost_a, int regcost_a, int 
> >> >> cost_b, int regcost_b)
> >> >>     from COST macro to keep it simple.  */
> >> >>  
> >> >>  static int
> >> >> -notreg_cost (rtx x, machine_mode mode, enum rtx_code outer, int opno)
> >> >> +notreg_cost (rtx x, machine_mode mode, enum rtx_code /*outer*/, int 
> >> >> /*opno*/)
> >> >>  {
> >> >>    scalar_int_mode int_mode, inner_mode;
> >> >> -  return ((GET_CODE (x) == SUBREG
> >> >> -          && REG_P (SUBREG_REG (x))
> >> >> -          && is_int_mode (mode, &int_mode)
> >> >> -          && is_int_mode (GET_MODE (SUBREG_REG (x)), &inner_mode)
> >> >> -          && GET_MODE_SIZE (int_mode) < GET_MODE_SIZE (inner_mode)
> >> >> -          && subreg_lowpart_p (x)
> >> >> -          && TRULY_NOOP_TRUNCATION_MODES_P (int_mode, inner_mode))
> >> >> -         ? 0
> >> >> -         : rtx_cost (x, mode, outer, opno, optimize_this_for_speed_p) 
> >> >> * 2);
> >> >> +  if (GET_CODE (x) == SUBREG && REG_P (SUBREG_REG (x))
> >> >> +      && is_int_mode (mode, &int_mode)
> >> >> +      && is_int_mode (GET_MODE (SUBREG_REG (x)), &inner_mode)
> >> >> +      && GET_MODE_SIZE (int_mode) < GET_MODE_SIZE (inner_mode)
> >> >> +      && subreg_lowpart_p (x)
> >> >> +      && TRULY_NOOP_TRUNCATION_MODES_P (int_mode, inner_mode))
> >> >> +    return 0;
> >> >> +
> >> >> +  if (estimate_insn == NULL)
> >> >> +    {
> >> >> +      estimate_insn = make_insn_raw (
> >> >> +       gen_rtx_SET (gen_rtx_REG (mode, LAST_VIRTUAL_REGISTER + 1), x));
> >> >> +      SET_PREV_INSN (estimate_insn) = NULL_RTX;
> >> >> +      SET_NEXT_INSN (estimate_insn) = NULL_RTX;
> >> >> +      INSN_LOCATION (estimate_insn) = 0;
> >> >> +    }
> >> >> +  else
> >> >> +    {
> >> >> +      /* Update for new context.  */
> >> >> +      INSN_CODE (estimate_insn) = -1;
> >> >> +      PUT_MODE (SET_DEST (PATTERN (estimate_insn)), mode);
> >> >> +      SET_SRC (PATTERN (estimate_insn)) = x;
> >> >> +    }
> >> >> +  return insn_cost (estimate_insn, optimize_this_for_speed_p);
> >> >>  }
> >> >>  
> >> >>  
> >> >> @@ -6667,6 +6685,7 @@ cse_main (rtx_insn *f ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, int nregs)
> >> >>  
> >> >>    init_recog ();
> >> >>    init_alias_analysis ();
> >> >> +  estimate_insn = NULL;
> >> >>  
> >> >>    reg_eqv_table = XNEWVEC (struct reg_eqv_elem, nregs);
> >> >>  
> >> >> 
> >> 
> 

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