On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 1:39 AM Richard Sandiford
<richard.sandif...@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Tamar Christina <tamar.christ...@arm.com> writes:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Hongtao Liu <crazy...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:37 AM
> >> To: Tamar Christina <tamar.christ...@arm.com>
> >> Cc: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandif...@arm.com>; Tamar Christina via
> >> Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; nd <n...@arm.com>;
> >> rguent...@suse.de
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8]middle-end: Support extractions of subvectors from
> >> arbitrary element position inside a vector
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 4:51 PM Tamar Christina
> >> <tamar.christ...@arm.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Hongtao Liu <crazy...@gmail.com>
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 8:36 AM
> >> > > To: Tamar Christina <tamar.christ...@arm.com>
> >> > > Cc: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandif...@arm.com>; Tamar Christina
> >> > > via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; nd <n...@arm.com>;
> >> > > rguent...@suse.de
> >> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8]middle-end: Support extractions of
> >> > > subvectors from arbitrary element position inside a vector
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi:
> >> > >   I'm from https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-
> >> > > November/606040.html.
> >> > > >      }
> >> > > >
> >> > > >    /* See if we can get a better vector mode before extracting.
> >> > > > */ diff --git a/gcc/optabs.cc b/gcc/optabs.cc index
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> cff37ccb0dfc3dd79b97d0abfd872f340855dc96..f338df410265dfe55b68961600
> >> > > 9
> >> > > 0
> >> > > > a453cc6a28d9 100644
> >> > > > --- a/gcc/optabs.cc
> >> > > > +++ b/gcc/optabs.cc
> >> > > > @@ -6267,6 +6267,7 @@ expand_vec_perm_const (machine_mode
> >> mode,
> >> > > rtx v0, rtx v1,
> >> > > >        v0_qi = gen_lowpart (qimode, v0);
> >> > > >        v1_qi = gen_lowpart (qimode, v1);
> >> > > >        if (targetm.vectorize.vec_perm_const != NULL
> >> > > > +         && targetm.can_change_mode_class (mode, qimode,
> >> > > > + ALL_REGS)
> >> > > It looks like you want to guard gen_lowpart, shouldn't it be better
> >> > > to use validate_subreg  or (tmp = gen_lowpart_if_possible (mode,
> >> target_qi)).
> >> > > IMHO, targetm.can_change_mode_class is mostly used for RA, but not
> >> > > to guard gen_lowpart.
> >> >
> >> > Hmm I don't think this is quite true, there are existing usages in
> >> > expr.cc and rtanal.cc That do this and aren't part of RA.  As I
> >> > mentioned before for instance the canoncalization of vec_select to subreg
> >> in rtlanal for instances uses this.
> >> In theory, we need to iterate through all reg classes that can be assigned 
> >> for
> >> both qimode and mode, if any regclass returns true for
> >> targetm.can_change_mode_class, the bitcast(validate_subreg) should be ok.
> >> Here we just passed ALL_REGS.
> >
> > Yes, and most targets where this transformation is valid return true here.
> >
> > I've checked:
> >  * alpha
> >  * arm
> >  * aarch64
> >  * rs6000
> >  * s390
> >  * sparc
> >  * pa
> >  * mips
> >
> > And even the default example that other targets use from the documentation
> > would return true as the size of the modes are the same.
> >
> > X86 and RISCV are the only two targets that I found (but didn't check all) 
> > that
> > blankly return a result based on just the register classes.
> >
> > That is to say, there are more targets that adhere to the interpretation 
> > that
> > rclass here means "should be possible in some class in rclass" rather than
> > "should be possible in ALL classes of rclass".
>
> Yeah, I agree.  A query "can something stored in ALL_REGS change from
> mode M1 to mode M2?" is meaningful if at least one register R in ALL_REGS
> can hold both M1 and M2.  It's then the target's job to answer
> conservatively so that the result covers all such R.
>
> In principle it's OK for a target to err on the side of caution and forbid
> things that are actually OK.  But that's going to risk losing performance
> in some cases, and sometimes that loss of performance will be unacceptable.
> IMO that's what's happening here.  The target is applying x87 rules to
> things that (AIUI) are never stored in x87 registers, and so losing
Yes, it can be optimized since some mode will never assigned to x87 registers.
> performance as a result.
>
> Note that the RA also uses ALL_REGS for some things, so this usage
> isn't specific to non-RA code.
RA passes the minimal reg class(REGNO_REG_CLASS) which contains REGN
to decide if can_change_mode_class, not ALL_REGS.
511/* Given a hard REGN a FROM mode and a TO mode, return true if
512   REGN can change from mode FROM to mode TO.  */
513#define REG_CAN_CHANGE_MODE_P(REGN, FROM, TO)                          \
514  (targetm.can_change_mode_class (FROM, TO, REGNO_REG_CLASS (REGN)))
515

So I still think using can_change_mode_class outside of RA with
ALL_REGS passed to decide whether it's ok to generate subreg is not a
good idea.
>
> IMO it's not the job of target-independent code to iterate through
> individual classes and aggregate the result.  One of the reasons for
> having union classes is to avoid the need to do that.  And ALL_REGS
> is the ultimate union class. :-)
>
> The patch looks correct to me.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> >> >
> >> > So there are already existing precedence for this.  And the
> >> > documentation for the hook says:
> >> >
> >> > "This hook returns true if it is possible to bitcast values held in 
> >> > registers of
> >> class rclass from mode from to mode to and if doing so preserves the low-
> >> order bits that are common to both modes. The result is only meaningful if
> >> rclass has registers that can hold both from and to. The default
> >> implementation returns true"
> >> >
> >> > So it looks like it's use outside of RA is perfectly valid.. and the
> >> > documentation also mentions in the example the use from the mid-end as
> >> an example.
> >> >
> >> > But if the mid-end maintainers are happy I'll use something else.
> >> >
> >> > Tamar
> >> >
> >> > > I did similar things in
> >> > > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2021-September/579296.html
> >> > > (and ALL_REGS doesn't cover all cases for registers which are both
> >> > > available for qimode and mode, ALL_REGS fail doesn't mean it can't
> >> > > be subreg, it just means parts of ALL_REGS can't be subreg. but with
> >> > > a subset of ALL_REGS, there could be a reg class which return true
> >> > > for
> >> > > targetm.can_change_mode_class)
> >> > > >           && targetm.vectorize.vec_perm_const (qimode, qimode,
> >> > > > target_qi,
> >> > > v0_qi,
> >> > > >                                                v1_qi, 
> >> > > > qimode_indices))
> >> > > >         return gen_lowpart (mode, target_qi); @@ -6311,7 +6312,8
> >> > > > @@ expand_vec_perm_const (machine_mode mode, rtx v0, rtx v1,
> >> > > >      }
> >> > > >
> >> > > >    if (qimode != VOIDmode
> >> > > > -      && selector_fits_mode_p (qimode, qimode_indices))
> >> > > > +      && selector_fits_mode_p (qimode, qimode_indices)
> >> > > > +      && targetm.can_change_mode_class (mode, qimode, ALL_REGS))
> >> > > >      {
> >> > > >        icode = direct_optab_handler (vec_perm_optab, qimode);
> >> > > >        if (icode != CODE_FOR_nothing) diff --git
> >> > > > a/gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/aarch64/ext_1.c
> >> > > > b/gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/aarch64/ext_1.c
> >> > > > new file mode 100644
> >> > > > index
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..18a10a14f1161584267a8472e5
> >> > > 71
> >> > > > b3bc2ddf887a
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > BR,
> >> > > Hongtao
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> BR,
> >> Hongtao



-- 
BR,
Hongtao

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