On 09.08.2023 04:14, Hongtao Liu wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 9:21 AM Hongtao Liu <crazy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 3:55 AM Joseph Myers <jos...@codesourcery.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have any comments on the interaction of AVX10 with the
>>> micro-architecture levels defined in the ABI (and supported with
>>> glibc-hwcaps directories in glibc)?  Given that the levels are cumulative,
>>> should we take it that any future levels will be ones supporting 512-bit
>>> vector width for AVX10 (because x86-64-v4 requires the current AVX512F,
>>> AVX512BW, AVX512CD, AVX512DQ and AVX512VL) - and so any future processors
>>> that only support 256-bit vector width will be considered to match the
>>> x86-64-v3 micro-architecture level but not any higher level?
>> This is actually something we really want to discuss in the community,
>> our proposal for x86-64-v5: AVX10.2-256(Implying AVX10.1-256) + APX.
>> One big reason is Intel E-core will only support AVX10 256-bit, if we
>> want to use x86-64-v5 accross  server and client, it's better to
>> 256-bit default.

Aiui these ABI levels were intended to be incremental, i.e. higher versions
would include everything earlier ones cover. Without such a guarantee, how
would you propose compatibility checks to be implemented in a way
applicable both forwards and backwards? If a new level is wanted here, then
I guess it could only be something like v3.5.

Jan

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