On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 17:22, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 14:57, Christophe Lyon
> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 15:12, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 13:36, Christophe Lyon
> >> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 12:59, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 20:31, Christophe Lyon
> >> >> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Some targets like arm-eabi with newlib and default settings rely on
> >> >> > __sync_synchronize() to ensure synchronization.  Newlib does not
> >> >> > implement it by default, to make users aware they have to take
> special
> >> >> > care.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This makes a few tests fail to link.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does this mean those features are unusable on the target, or just
> that
> >> >> users need to provide their own __sync_synchronize to use them?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > IIUC the user is expected to provide them.
> >> > Looks like we discussed this in the past :-)
> >> > In  https://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc-patches/2016-10/msg01632.html,
> >> > see the pointer to Ramana's comment:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-05/msg02751.html
> >>
> >> Oh yes, thanks for the reminder!
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The default arch for arm-eabi is armv4t which is very old.
> >> > When running the testsuite with something more recent (either as
> default by configuring GCC --with-arch=XXX or by forcing -march/-mcpu via
> dejagnu's target-board), the compiler generates barrier instructions and
> there are no such errors.
> >>
> >> Ah yes, that's fine then.
> >>
> >> > For instance, here is a log with the defaults:
> >> >
> https://git.linaro.org/toolchain/ci/base-artifacts/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-arm_eabi.git/tree/00-sumfiles?h=linaro-local/ci/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-arm_eabi
> >> > and a log when we target cortex-m0 which is still a very small cpu
> but has barriers:
> >> >
> https://git.linaro.org/toolchain/ci/base-artifacts/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-thumb_m0_eabi.git/tree/00-sumfiles?h=linaro-local/ci/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-thumb_m0_eabi
> >> >
> >> > I somehow wanted to get rid of such errors with the default
> configuration....
> >>
> >> Yep, that makes sense, and we'll still be testing them for newer
> >> arches on the target, so it's not completely disabling those parts of
> >> the testsuite.
> >>
> >> But I'm still curious why some of those tests need this change. I
> >> think the ones I noted below are probably failing for some other
> >> reasons.
> >>
> > Just looked at  23_containers/span/back_assert_neg.cc, the linker says
> it needs
> > arm-eabi/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs/libstdc++.a(debug.o) to resolve
> > ./back_assert_neg-back_assert_neg.o (std::__glibcxx_assert_fail(char
> const*, int, char const*, char const*))
> > and indeed debug.o has a reference to __sync_synchronize
>
> Aha, that's just because I put __glibcxx_assert_fail in debug.o, but
> there are no dependencies on anything else in that file, including the
> _M_detach member function that uses atomics.
>
indeed



> This would also be solved by -Wl,--gc-sections :-)
>
:-)


> I think it would be better to move __glibcxx_assert_fail to a new
> file, so that it doesn't make every assertion unnecessarily depend on
> __sync_synchronize. I'll do that now.
>
Sounds like a good idea, thanks.


> We could also make the atomics in debug.o conditional, so that debug
> mode doesn't depend on __sync_synchronize for single-threaded targets.
> Does the arm4t arch have pthreads support in newlib?  I didn't bother
>
No ( grep _GLIBCXX_HAS_GTHREADS
$objdir/arm-eabi/libstdc++-v3/include/arm-eabi/bits/c++config returns:
/* #undef _GLIBCXX_HAS_GTHREADS */

making the use of atomics conditional, because performance is not
> really a priority for debug mode bookkeeping. But the problem here
> isn't just a slight performance overhead of atomics, it's that they
> aren't even supported for arm4t.
>
OK thanks.

So finally, this uncovered at least a "bug" that  __glibcxx_assert_fail
should be in a dedicated object file :-)

I'll revisit my patch once you have moved __glibcxx_assert_fail

Thanks,

Christophe

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