On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 11:48 PM Kito Cheng <kito.ch...@sifive.com> wrote:
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> I am less worry about the thead vector combined with other zv extension, 
> instead we should reject those combinations at all.
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> My reason is thead vector is transitional products, they won't have any 
> further new products with that longer, also it's not compatible with all 
> other zv extension in theory, zv extension requires at least zve32x which is 
> subset of v1p0, and I don't think it's valid to use thead vector as 
> replacement required extension - it should just introduce another thead 
> vector extension instead.

The "transitional products" argument is probably enough to add this restriction,
so we will add this to the first patch of the series.

Further, we'll implement approach 1 (emitting no "th." prefix for
instructions in vector.md)
with an additional patch on top, which implements the ASM_OUTPUT_OPCODE hook
(with a comment that clarifies why "ptr[0] == 'v'" is sufficient there).
So the decision about this can be postponed and we can focus on the rest
of the patchset as Jeff suggested.

Thanks for the inputs!

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> Jeff Law <jeffreya...@gmail.com> 於 2023年11月23日 週四 06:27 寫道:
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>> On 11/22/23 07:24, Christoph Müllner wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 2:52 PM 钟居哲 <juzhe.zh...@rivai.ai> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am totally ok to approve theadvector on GCC-14 before stage 3 close
>> >> as long as it doesn't touch the current RVV codes too much and binutils 
>> >> supports theadvector.
>> >>
>> >> I have provided the draft approach:
>> >> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2023-November/637349.html
>> >> which turns out doesn't need to change any codes of vector.md.
>> >> I strongly suggest follow this draft. I can be actively review 
>> >> theadvector during stage 3.
>> >> And hopefully can help you land theadvector on GCC-14.
>> >
>> > I see now two approaches:
>> > 1) Let GCC emit RVV instructions for XTheadVector for instructions
>> > that are in both
>> > 2) Use the ASM_OUTPUT_OPCODE hook to output "th." for these instructions
>> >
>> > No doubt, the ASM_OUTPUT_OPCODE hook approach is better than our
>> > format-string approach, but would 1) not be the even better
>> > solution? It would also mean, that not a single test case is required
>> > for these overlapping instructions (only a few tests that ensure that
>> > we don't emit RVV instructions that are not available in
>> > XTheadVector). Besides that, letting GCC emit RVV instructions for
>> > XTheadVector is a very clever idea, because it fully utilizes the
>> > fact that both extensions overlap to a huge degree.
>> >
>> > The ASM_OUTPUT_OPCODE approach could lead to an issue if we enable
>> XTheadVector
>> > with any other vector extension, say Zvfoo. In this case the Zvfoo
>> > instructions will all be prefixed as well with "th.". I know that it
>> > is not likely to run into this problem (such a machine does not exist
>> > in real hardware), but it is possible to trigger this issue easily
>> > and approach 1) would not have this potential issue.
>> I'm not a big fan of the ASM_OUTPUT_OPCODE approach.    While it is
>> simple, I worry a bit about it from a long term maintenance standpoint.
>> As you note we could well end up at some point with an extension that
>> has an mnenomic starting with "v" that would blow up.  But I certainly
>> see the appeal of such a simple test to support thead vector.
>>
>> Given there are at least 3 approaches that can fix that problem (%^,
>> assembler dialect or ASM_OUTPUT_OPCODE), maybe we could set that
>> discussion aside in the immediate term and see if there are other issues
>> that are potentially more substantial.
>>
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>> --
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>> More generally, I think I need to soften my prior statement about
>> deferring this to gcc-15.  This code was submitted in time for the
>> gcc-14 deadline, so it should be evaluated just like we do anything else
>> that makes the deadline.  There are various criteria we use to evaluate
>> if something should get integrated and we should just work through this
>> series like we always do and not treat it specially in any way.
>>
>>
>> jeff

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