> On Jan 15, 2024, at 4:31 AM, Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 6:30 PM Qing Zhao <qing.z...@oracle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for the reply.
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 12.01.2024 um 16:55 schrieb Qing Zhao <qing.z...@oracle.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have some questions on using the utility routine “unshare_expr”:
>>>> 
>>>> From my understanding, there should be NO shared nodes in a GENERIC 
>>>> function.
>>>> Otherwise, gimplication might fail.
>>> 
>>> There is sharing and this is why we unshare everything before 
>>> gimplification.
>> 
>> Okay, so, the "unsharing everything” is done automatically by the compiler 
>> before gimplification?
>> I don’t need to worry about this?
>> 
>> I see  many places in FE where “unshare_expr” is used, for example, 
>> “ubsan_instrument_division”,
>> “ubsan_instrument_shift”, etc.
> 
> It's likely doing sth during gimplification.

So, before gimplification,  when inserting tree node, we don’t need manually
 add unshare_expr since the gimplification will automatically unshare nodes. 

However, during or after gimplfication, when inserting nodes, we should manually
 add unshare_expr when we put the same “tree” into multiple operands.

Is this understanding correct?

>> So, usually, when should “unshare_expr” be used?
> 
> You should usually unshare when you are putting the same 'tree' into multiple
> operands.  

Okay, I see.

> Using a SAVE_EXPR avoids redundant code but it also requires
> that the SAVE_EXPR uses are ordered.

“Require the SAVE_EXPR uses are ordered”, does this mean that 
SAVE_EXPRs for the same node should be in a correct order? Or something else?


> 
>>>> Therefore, when we insert new tree nodes manually into the GENERIC 
>>>> function, we should
>>>> Make sure there is no shared nodes introduced.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Is the above understanding correct?
>>> 
>>> No
>>> 
>>>> 2. Is there any tool to check there is no shared nodes in the GENERIC 
>>>> function?
>>>> 3. Are there any tree nodes that are allowed to be shared in a GENERIC 
>>>> function? If so, what are they?
>>> 
>>> There’s some allowed sharing on GIMPLE and a verifier.
>> What’s the name of the verifier that I can search and check?
> 
> verify_node_sharing

Okay, thanks. 

> 
>>> 
>>>> 4. For the following:
>>>> 
>>>> If both “op1” and “op2” are existing tree nodes in the current GENERIC 
>>>> function,
>>>> and we will insert a new tree node:
>>>> 
>>>> tree  new_tree = build2 (CODE, TYPE, op1, op2)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Should we add “unshare_expr” on both “op1” and “op2” as:
>>>> 
>>>> Tree new_tree = build2 (CODE, TYPE, unshare_expr (op1), unshare_expr (op2))
>>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Not necessarily but instead you have to watch for evaluating side-effects 
>>> only once.  See save_expr.
>> 
>> Okay.  I see.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If op2 is a node that is allowed to be shared, whether the additional 
>>>> “unshare_expr” on it trigger any potential problem?
>>> 
>>> If you unshare side-effects that’s generating wrong-code.  Otherwise 
>>> unsharing is safe.
>> 
>> Okay.
>> Will unnecessary unshareing produce redundant IRs?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> All my questions for unshare_expr relate to a  LTO bug that I currently 
>> stuck with
>> when using .ACCESS_WITH_SIZE in bound sanitizer (only with -flto, without 
>> -flto, no issue):
>> 
>> [opc@qinzhao-aarch64-ol8 gcc]$ sh t
>> during IPA pass: modref
>> t.c:20:1: internal compiler error: tree code ‘ssa_name’ is not supported in 
>> LTO streams
>> 0x14c3993 lto_write_tree
>>        ../../latest-gcc-write/gcc/lto-streamer-out.cc:561
>> 0x14c3aeb lto_output_tree_1
>> 
>> And the value of the tree node that triggered the ICE is:
>> (gdb) call debug_tree(expr)
>> <ssa_name 0xfffff5761e60 type <error_mark 0xfffff56c0e58>
>>    nothrow
>>    def_stmt
>>    version:13 in-free-list>
>> 
>> Is there any good way to debug LTO bug?
> 
> This happens usually when you have a VLA type and its type fields are not
> properly gimplified which usually happens because the frontend fails to
> insert a gimplification point for it (a DECL_EXPR).
Thanks for the info. 
This is happening for a structure TYPE with FAM (I guess similar as VLA?)
Usually what’s the good solution to it?

thanks.

Qing
> 
>> Thanks a lot for the help.
>> 
>> Qing
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot for your help.
>>>> 
>>>> Qing
>> 

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