On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 06:40:07PM +0200, Martin Uecker wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, dem 23.07.2025 um 00:30 -0700 schrieb Kees Cook:
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 07:47:11AM +0200, Martin Uecker wrote:
> ...
> 
> > 
> > How would GCC want to define the syntax for expressions here? I still
> > think it should be possible to wire up something that matches it in
> > Clang, even if it is a "redundant" syntax within Clang (i.e. Clang can
> > support 2 way to handle expressions, GCC has 1, and Linux will use the
> > common way).
> 
> From the kernel side, what would be the use cases for the main
> expression syntax (do you really need arbitrary expressions?),
> and how often will you need it compared to the single identifier case?

Aaron's reply looks a lot like what I would expect from Linux. I can't
answer this question with exact numbers as Linux hasn't done the
implementation, but my own manual reviews of where Linux could apply the
attribute looks much like what Aaron sent. I clarified Linux's needs a
bit more around the "special cases" in a reply to that email.

But, roughly, I expect "special cases" to be less than 10%. In that 10%
the expressions end up having effectively arbitrary expression needs
due to potentially performing bit operations, returning global variable
values, etc. (This is why I like the idea of the callback, since it
would basically just be an inline expression that gets dropped into the
size calculation.)

-- 
Kees Cook

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