On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 08:43:11PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 10:37:44AM -0600, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 12:06:57AM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2025 at 01:34:28PM -0500, Marek Polacek via Gcc wrote:
> > > > I would like us to declare that C++20 is no longer experimental and
> > > > change the default dialect to gnu++20.
> > 
> > Defaulting to something that is just a few years old is super
> > aggressive, esp. because not many people will test building with
> > something else, although we still support it (building a cross with a
> > slightly older compiler, for example).
> > 
> > So let's at least not got any further than this!  Document that five
> > years is the limit, even?
> 
> This is not bumping the minimum version that gcc can be built with,
> that stays to be C++14.

Yes.  But it changes the default used.  So it changes the version used
on all native bootstraps, what most people use.

> This is about what C++ standard g++ uses when users don't specify
> any -std= options.
> E.g. for C we default to C23, which is 2 years old.  For C++ we currently
> default to C++17, which is 8 years old.

And GNU++20 is only four-and-a-half years old, quite young!


Segher

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