Hi

On 9 August 2013 17:28, Jan Hubicka <hubi...@ucw.cz> wrote:
>> > Do we sanity check that the cold partition does not contain any blocks of
>> > count 0?  It may be that the profile is broken enough to make partitioning
>> > not work.
>>
>> Do you mean sanity check that the cold partition does not contain any
>> blocks of count > 0? (they should all be zero) I don't think that
>> sanity check is there, but I can try adding that.
>
> Thanks, lets start with this - I suppose we need to figure out if
>  1) the reachable blocks goes to cold section because partitioning decides
>     so even if they have non-0 count.
>  2) the reachable blocks goes to cold section because they have incorrectly
>     updated count to 0 by someone
>  3) profiling gets some blocks wrong.
>>
>> The issue with such a sanity check may be due to the later fixup I
>> have in this patch (fixup_partitions). It is invoked after certain
>> optimizations on the cfg that may make hot blocks previously reached
>> by both hot and cold edges only reachable by cold blocks. These blocks
>> are remarked cold. If the profile data hasn't been updated correctly
>> it is possible that they would still have a non-0 count, although they
>> are essentially cold after the cfg transformation.
>
> Well, or the other posibility is that the edges was updated wrong
> and the blocks are really cold.  We need to figure out if that happens
> commonly enough.
>
> I will try to think of some artificial testcases.
>
>>
>> But certainly such a sanity check should always succeed after the
>> original partitioning.
>>
>> > I can think of inlining where the count gets scaled all way down to 0.  
>> > Perhaps
>> > count scaling code can be modified to never round towards 0 for block 
>> > executing
>> > non-0 times...
>>
>> This reminds me of why this situation could happen. When I have been
>> testing this on the google branch I found situations where COMDAT
>> routines have 0 profile counts (if I remember correctly, this happens
>> when profile-gen binary has call to out-of-line copy of COMDAT in
>> module A, linker chooses the out-of-line copy from module B, therefore
>> the profile data for COMDAT in module A is 0). When the COMDAT gets
>> inlined, the 0 counts on its bbs are scaled to 0, even though the
>> callsite is non-zero. I have a patch that I was planning to send as a
>> follow-up that handles this case by propagating the callsite bb's
>> count to the inlined code when it has 0 counts, scaling by the edge
>> frequencies. I can either include that patch in this one, or send it
>> for review separately right now. Do you want to give it a try with
>> this one to see if it addresses the issue?
>
> This scenario should not happen with LTO setup: the LTO symbol tables contains
> code before early optimization and should be identical with profiling or
> without (modulo the new references and call from profile code).
>
> But this patch seems useful as a backup solution for non-LTO, so yes, please
> send it separately and I can try to double check that it really do not happen
> with LTO.
> (acutally LTO symtab may just chose COMDAT from module that has counts with 
> it.
> It has all the info for it.  I was thinkin about it few weeks back.  It is
> bit hard to do - you need to verify that all references from the function are
> the same or linking might fail if you overwrite linker's decisiosns).
>>
>> Also, can you send me reproduction instructions for gimp? I don't
>> think I need Martin's patch, but which version of gimp and what is the
>> equivalent way for me to train it? I have some scripts to generate a
>> similar type of instruction heat map graph that I have been using to
>> tune partitioning and function reordering. Essentially it uses linux
>> perf to sample on instructions_retired and then munge the data in
>> several ways to produce various stats and graphs. One thing that has
>> been useful has been to combine the perf data with nm output to
>> determine which cold functions are being executed at runtime.
>
> Martin?

I use gimp from git repository, commit:
88ecd59c3436d302b644a5d25c1938c0e7b60ae0 (from Fet 5 2013)
Link: http://www.gimp.org/source/#gimp_from_git

Martin

>>
>> However, for this to tell me which split cold bbs are being executed I
>> need to use a patch that Sri sent for review several months back that
>> gives the split cold section its own name:
>>   http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2013-04/msg01571.html
>> Steven had some follow up comments that Sri hasn't had a chance to address 
>> yet:
>>   http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2013-05/msg00798.html
>> (cc'ing Sri as we should probably revive this patch soon to address
>> gdb and other issues with detecting split functions properly)
>
> Intresting, I used linker script for this purposes, but that his GNU ld 
> only...
>
> Honza
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Teresa
>>
>> >
>> > Honza
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Teresa
>> >>
>> >> > I think we are really looking primarily for dead parts of the functions 
>> >> > (sanity checks/error handling)
>> >> > that should not be visited by train run.  We can then see how to make 
>> >> > the heuristic more aggressive?
>> >> >
>> >> > Honza
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Teresa Johnson | Software Engineer | tejohn...@google.com | 408-460-2413
>>
>>
>>
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>> Teresa Johnson | Software Engineer | tejohn...@google.com | 408-460-2413

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