On 02/14/2011 07:00 PM, Matt Thomas wrote:

On Feb 14, 2011, at 6:50 PM, David Daney wrote:

On 02/14/2011 06:33 PM, Matt Thomas wrote:

On Feb 14, 2011, at 6:22 PM, David Daney wrote:

On 02/14/2011 04:15 PM, Matt Thomas wrote:

I have to wonder if it's worth the effort.  The primary problem I see
is that this new ABI requires a 64bit kernel since faults through the
upper 2G will go through the XTLB miss exception vector.


Yes, that is correct.  It is a 64-bit ABI, and like the existing n32 ABI 
requires a 64-bit kernel.

N32 doesn't require a LP64 kernel, just a 64-bit register aware kernel.
Your N32-big does require a LP64 kernel.


But using 'official' kernel sources the only way to get a 64-bit register aware 
kernel is for it to also be LP64.  So effectively, you do in fact need a 64-bit 
kernel to run n32 userspace code.

Not all the world is Linux. :)  NetBSD supports N32 kernels.


Use of LP32 in the kernel is only really appropiate in systems with a small amount of memory. The proposed n32-big would run on such systems, but would probably *not* have an advantage over standard n32.



My proposed ABI would need trivial kernel changes:

o Fix a couple of places where pointers are sign extended instead of zero 
extended.

I think you'll find there are more of these than you'd expect.

You could be right, but to date in auditing the Linux kernel, sigaction() is the only place I have found.



o Change the stack address and address ranges returned by mmap().

My biggest concern is that many many mips opcodes expect properly
sign-extended value for registers.  Thusly N32-big will require
using daddu/dadd/dsub/dsubu for addresses.  So that's yet another
departure from N32 which can use addu/add/sub/subu.


That's right.  Which is why I said...


The main work would be in the compiler toolchain and runtime libraries.

You'd also need to update gas for la and dla expansion.


I am counting gas, ld and libc as part of the 'compiler toolchain'

David Daney

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