On 5 April 2011 02:21, Lex Trotman <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5 April 2011 00:34, Matthew Brush <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 04/04/11 06:55, Lex Trotman wrote: >>> >>> But the font size is fixed, which is no good. To give you an idea, >>> note in my screen shot how much extra space there is on each side >>> compared to yours, now think how small that makes the text. I >>> currently use 18 point as default, but you probably wouldn't want that >>> on your screen. >> >> Press Ctrl and + to zoom in :) > > Why should we have to do this?? Plus when you zoom most pages (in > your list) show artifacts and/or font rendering problems. > >> >> I have a big monitor as well, and I've noticed many of the nice professional >> sites don't scale or change the font size when the browser is resized. > > Sadly this just proves my contention about web designers ;-) > > Perhaps I'm being too harsh, they are taught at design school to do > things on a piece of paper and I understand that they consequently > have trouble getting their heads around things that vary. By calling > them lazy I really mean that fixed size is much easier to design. > > Some >> of the nice ones I've noticed lately: >> >> http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > Nah, doesn't do it for me, all advertising no content & text too > small, if I didn't know anything about Ubuntu it wouldn't sell me on > it. > >> http://gitorious.org/ > > An ingenious background that makes it look less like it is fixed size, > and the multi column text layout is good, but again some of the fonts > are too small > >> http://ground-control.org/ > > As above but not quite so nicely designed > >> http://store.apple.com/ca/ > > Shows that you can have sidebar navigation :) > >> http://www.libreoffice.org/ > > This one is an interesting one, even though it has two column text all > the text follows the default size, it isn't fixed, & I like the > background gradient. The overall look is clean. > Maybe we could do something similar with one column for news the other > for description/features/info? > >> >> I usually use only half of my monitor for the browser, which works well with >> this style of fixed-width, centered websites that seems to be all the rage. > > 1. NEVER confuse common with good, Microsoft anyone? :) > > 2. I have 12 tabs open, 8 of which are using full width. The only > ones that don't look too good are the GTK reference ones. Of the > fixed size ones, two are manuals, (all text so of course they are > fixed width), one is news (lots of pictures, another of the reasons I > gave for fixed size) and that leaves one other fixed size. So I am > not going to re-size the browser for one website. > >> >> Note also that all those examples are using the same general style of >> "across the top" menus. I think a lot of people look there by default >> nowadays for the main site navigation. > > None of them have menus across the top, they all have 4-6 links across > the top, which all go to other pages so you have to go to other pages > to look for things. I think 4-6 is too few for what we have to cover. > Hence I advocate a sidebar which fits more. > > But maybe we can use the method that http://www.linuxmint.com/ uses > where, as you mouse over the top categories the next line shows the > subcategories, that way you can find what you are looking for without > having to go to other pages to search for it. Anyway its something to > try as an alternative. It could probably re-use most of the menu code > Pockata has already, just make the menu horizontal on the next line. > >> >> My $0.02 CAD. >> > > Raise you $0.02 AUD its worth $0.0015 more as of writing this. > > Cheers > Lex > _______________________________________________ > Geany mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany >
Just a few comments in reply to points raised by Lex et al: * I agree that the background colour should be a light shade, not dark as it is in the mock-ups; * I also like the design of the LibreOffice site; * I like the general idea of the Linux Mint web site's menu but in practice when you hover over a sub-menu item, it's then not obvious which main menu item you are viewing; * If it's possible I agree that a fluid/dynamic layout is definitely preferred to a fixed layout. -- Russell Dickenson _______________________________________________ Geany mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany
