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From: Barbie Heid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:38 am
Subject: Re: [gecko]the saga continues

> On a human, I'd think lymph nodes (although usually under armpits). 
> Considering it may have been lymph in the cyst, call vet asap.

Geckos don't have lymph nodes (they are a mammal thing), but there can
certainly be buildup of lymphatic fluids in a number of places.  Under
the "armpits" is not an uncommon site of fluid retention in geckos,
though I am not certain it would be best described as lymph. The advice
to call the vet asap, however, is excellent.  

There are generally not a lot of good reasons for fluid accumulations in
the SC space.

As to the origional site of fluid buildup, I would hazard to bet that it
was, as others have suggested, a cystic ovary.  I cannot recall if said
fluid was ever cultured for bacteria.  If not, consider doing so
(anaerobic and aerobic) with any future such samples.  Now it is true
that there are other possibilities of coelomic fluid buildup, and in an
animal of that size it can be hard to tell without surgery. 
Reproductive tract derangements (infections, cysts etc) are one of the
most common causes fo morbidity and mortality in female reptiles. 
Sepsis secondary to an oophoritis would be at the top of my list in this
animal.  Not the only thing on the list, but definately up there.

Such animals have been successfully "spayed" (and even hemi-spayed if
you want to retain the possibility of reproduction) and that would be a
good time to look around in there to determine the extent of the
pathology.  Having said that this animal needs to be evaluated and
stabilized before anyone seriously considers having a look inside.

Keith


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