Thanks, Lynn. I'm sorry you lost your gecko, and I appreciate the advice. Diane
> I hand fed mine babyfood (chicken mixed with a little water and calcium > dust) by using a syringe and putting a dab of it on her face. She would > lick off quite a bit. I did eventually have to have her euthanized > because she had a huge abdominal mass. It cost about 35 dollars to have > her put down. Good luck. > > Lynn Hall > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:01 AM > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: gecko digest, Vol 1 #1091 - 4 msgs > > Send gecko mailing list submissions to > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gecko digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sick -- probably dying -- gecko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 2. Re: Sick -- probably dying -- gecko (Jamie A. Stine) > 3. Re: Sick -- probably dying -- gecko (J Aherns) > 4. Re: Sick -- probably dying -- gecko (Leann Christenson) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:28:40 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Reply-To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last > night, > even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into the > enclosure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I > found > them regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take her > to > the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local vets > as > far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure today and am waiting > for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back in it. Maybe that > will > perk her up a bit -- or not. > > Diane > > >> I hand fed two very sick geckos, one leopard and one fat tail. The > best >> way I found to get them to eat is to cut head off of the mealworm, > then >> hold the mealworm body with the open end and some of the guts hanging > out >> in front of the geckos mouth. You can also gently touch the guts to > the >> geckos mouth. Both my geckos would then lick their faces and while > they >> were doing that, I would try to slip the meal worm in. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:21 pm >> Subject: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko >> To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com >> >>> My older gecko Na?Toth seems to be wasting away. She hasn?t been >>> eatingmany of the mealworms I?ve been feeding her, so I tried >>> crickets. In >>> order to get her to notice them I have to take out all of the >>> furniturefrom her enclosure so it?s just her and the crickets. >>> After a while when >>> she stops eating I put her furniture back so she can go and hide >>> again.She ate several a few days ago but then the next day I found >>> regurgitatedcrickets in the enclosure. >>> >>> I had the same sort of problem with her a couple of years ago and >>> took her >>> to a vet. At that time the problem turned out to be that the >>> temperaturein her cage wasn?t warm enough. That?s definitely not >>> the case this time. >>> I had to try to force feed her while she was recovering, which was >>> a trial >>> because we never could get her to open her mouth ? even the vet >>> couldn?tdo it! >>> >>> She?s been a weird gecko from the beginning. I bought her in a pet >>> store(yeah, I know?) and all she?s ever wanted to do is hide. >>> She?s totally >>> different from Sadie, the gecko I bought from Julie, who?s a little >>> glutton and has a definite personality. She?s a doll! >>> >>> This might sound cruel, but I?m not sure I want to spend a lot of >>> money or >>> time trying to find out what?s wrong with Na?Toth and then trying >>> to get >>> her better, under the circumstances. I also don?t want her to starve >>> herself to death, because I know that has to be painful. Is it >>> possible to >>> euthanize a gecko like a dog or cat? >>> >>> Diane >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Global Gecko Association >>> http://www.gekkota.com >>> Classifieds >>> http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi >>> gecko mailing list >>> gecko@lists.gekkota.com >>> http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko >>> >> > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:18:52 -0500 > From: "Jamie A. Stine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko > Reply-To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > ------=_Part_21456_18198458.1146428332223 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the first place? > IMHO, > mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for geckos -- they're too > crunchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to digest.. > > Anyway, that being said, what does her poop look like? IS she pooping? > She could have an impaction from built up chitin from the mealies, > that's > why I'm asking. > > Jamie A. Stine > > On 4/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last > night, >> even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into the >> enclosure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I > found >> them regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take > her t= > o >> the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local > vets a= > s >> far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure today and am > waiting >> for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back in it. Maybe that > wil= > l >> perk her up a bit -- or not. >> >> Diane >> >> >> > -- > Jamie A. Stine > Chat Host and Moderator, The Melleri Discovery > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo IM: TankDiveGirl > AIM: CalvusGirl > > http://www.myspace.com/tmelleri > http://www.melleridiscovery.com > > ------=_Part_21456_18198458.1146428332223 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the first place? > IM= > HO, mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for geckos -- they're too > cru= > nchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to > digest..<br><br>Anyway, = > that being said, what does her poop look like? IS she > pooping? = > She could have an impaction from built up chitin from the mealies, > th= > at's why I'm asking. > <br><br>Jamie A. Stine<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On > 4/30/06, = > <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"><a > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] > imail.com</a></b> <<a > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] > m</a> > > wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" > style=3D"border-left: 1= > px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: > 1ex;"= >>Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last > night,<= > br> > even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into > the<br>enclo= > sure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I > found<br>the= > m regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take her to > <br>the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local > vets= > as<br>far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure > today = > and am waiting<br>for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back in > it= > . Maybe that will > <br>perk her up a bit -- or > not.<br><br>Diane<br><br><br></blockquote></div= >><br>-- <br>Jamie A. Stine<br>Chat Host and Moderator, The Melleri > Discover= > y <br><br><a > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] > </a><br><a > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a= >><br><br>Yahoo IM: TankDiveGirl<br>AIM: CalvusGirl<br><br><a > href=3D"http:/= > /www.myspace.com/tmelleri">http://www.myspace.com/tmelleri</a><br><a > href= > =3D"http://www.melleridiscovery.com";> > http://www.melleridiscovery.com</a> > > ------=_Part_21456_18198458.1146428332223-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:03:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: J Aherns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Reply-To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > Mealworms are just fine for your geckos.I know many > breeders that only feed them with no problems.You may > want to email goldengategeckos.com for the sluery that > she uses it is great. > > > > Thank you, > Jodi L Aherns > 612.802.3980 > www.groundgeckofreak.com > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Leann Christenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <gecko@lists.gekkota.com> > Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:18:15 -0500 > Organization: Leaping Lizards Day Geckos > Reply-To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C66C8A.D4E71B00 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > One of the parasite that is often looked over by veterinarians is = > Cryptosporidium . This is because it requires a specific test that most > = > veterinarians do not do in house. It must be specifically requested. > > I mention this because you are describing two of the most common = > symptoms - wasting and regurgitation. =20 > > Regretfully, Crypto is becoming more and more common in the leopard = > gecko population, especially pet store leopard geckos. Crypto is spread > = > by fecal contact that gets into the mouth. Leopard geckos eat crickets > = > that walk on the bottom of enclosure. The crickets step into infected = > droppings (poop or what ever you call it) and then the gecko eats them. > = > The infected gecko begins to waste away, usually over a long time = > period, regurgitates its food and finally becomes very weak and dies. > =20 > > Many keepers think Crypto ends in death for any gecko who gets it. = > However, in a number of instances, the gecko can survive. Through strict > = > quarantine, keeping the gecko's enclosure very clean (remove fecal = > matter the minute you see it), providing easy to digest food, and treat > = > other symptoms can a gecko have a chance of survival. Quarantine is = > also very important in order to keep Crypto from spreading to any other > = > geckos in your collection. =20 > > There is so much to say about Crypto. I am not a vet and cannot say = > that your gecko has this, but because of the rising incidence of Crypto, > = > it should be considered. Whether or not you decide to test for Crypto, > = > take all precautions just in case it is. =20 > > If you would like more information about Crypo, how to nursed the sick = > gecko, or necessary quarantine practices to safeguard other geckos, I = > would be glad to share more. > > Leann Christenson > > > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Jamie A. Stine=20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: [gecko]Sick -- probably dying -- gecko > > > uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the first place? = > IMHO, mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for geckos -- they're = > too crunchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to digest.. > > Anyway, that being said, what does her poop look like? IS she = > pooping? She could have an impaction from built up chitin from the = > mealies, that's why I'm asking.=20 > > Jamie A. Stine > > > On 4/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:=20 > Thanks for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last = > night, > even without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into the > enclosure in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I > = > found > them regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take > = > her to=20 > the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the local = > vets as > far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure today and am = > waiting > for her furniture to dry off to put it and her back in it. Maybe = > that will=20 > perk her up a bit -- or not. > > Diane > > > > > --=20 > Jamie A. Stine > Chat Host and Moderator, The Melleri Discovery=20 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo IM: TankDiveGirl > AIM: CalvusGirl > > http://www.myspace.com/tmelleri > http://www.melleridiscovery.com > ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C66C8A.D4E71B00 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of the parasite that is often = > looked over by=20 > veterinarians is Cryptosporidium . This is because it requires a = > specific=20 > test that most veterinarians do not do in house. It must be = > specifically=20 > requested.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I mention this because you are = > describing two of=20 > the most common symptoms - wasting and regurgitation. = > </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regretfully, Crypto is becoming more = > and more=20 > common in the leopard gecko population, especially pet = > store leopard=20 > geckos. Crypto is spread by fecal contact that gets into the = > mouth. =20 > Leopard geckos eat crickets that walk on the bottom of enclosure. > = > The=20 > crickets step into infected droppings (poop or what ever you = > call=20 > it) and then the gecko eats them. The infected gecko = > begins to=20 > waste away, usually over a long time period, regurgitates its food and = > finally=20 > becomes very weak and dies. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Many keepers think Crypto ends > in=20 > death for any gecko who gets it. However, in a number of = > instances,=20 > the gecko can survive. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Through = > strict=20 > quarantine, keeping the gecko's enclosure very clean (remove fecal = > matter the=20 > minute you see it), providing easy to digest food, and treat other = > symptoms can=20 > a gecko have a chance of survival. Quarantine is also very = > important in=20 > order to keep Crypto from spreading to any other geckos in your=20 > collection. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is so much to say about = > Crypto. I am=20 > not a vet and cannot say that your gecko has this, but because of the = > rising=20 > incidence of Crypto, it should be considered. Whether or = > not you=20 > decide to test for Crypto, take all precautions just in case it = > is. =20 > </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you would like more information = > about Crypo, how=20 > to nursed the sick gecko, or necessary quarantine practices to safeguard > = > other=20 > geckos, I would be glad to share more.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Leann Christenson</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > <DIV=20 > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Jamie A.=20 > Stine</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > href=3D"mailto:gecko@lists.gekkota.com";>gecko@lists.gekkota.com</A> = > </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 30, 2006 = > 3:18=20 > PM</DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [gecko]Sick -- = > probably=20 > dying -- gecko</DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV>uhm.... Might I ask why you're feeding mealies in the = > first=20 > place? IMHO, mealies shouldn't be a staple food source for = > geckos --=20 > they're too crunchy. The exoskeletons are very difficult to=20 > digest..<BR><BR>Anyway, that being said, what does her poop look = > like? =20 > IS she pooping? She could have an impaction from built up > = > chitin=20 > from the mealies, that's why I'm asking. <BR><BR>Jamie A. = > Stine<BR><BR> > <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 4/30/06, <B = > class=3Dgmail_sendername><A=20 > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A></B> <<A=20 > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> > = > wrote:</SPAN>=20 > <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20 > style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: = > rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Thanks=20 > for the advice. I got her to eat about three mealworms last = > night,<BR>even=20 > without cutting their heads off. I just dropped them into = > the<BR>enclosure=20 > in front of her, one at a time. However, in the morning I = > found<BR>them=20 > regurgitated. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take her = > to=20 > <BR>the vet, although I don't have much confidence in any of the = > local vets=20 > as<BR>far as leos are concerned. I cleaned her enclosure > = > today=20 > and am waiting<BR>for her furniture to dry off to put it and her = > back in it.=20 > Maybe that will <BR>perk her up a bit -- or=20 > not.<BR><BR>Diane<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>-- <BR>Jamie A.=20 > Stine<BR>Chat Host and Moderator, The Melleri Discovery <BR><BR><A=20 > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] = > </A><BR><A=20 > = > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A><BR><BR >>= > Yahoo=20 > IM: TankDiveGirl<BR>AIM: CalvusGirl<BR><BR><A=20 > = > href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/tmelleri";>http://www.myspace.com/tmelleri > <= > /A><BR><A=20 > = > href=3D"http://www.melleridiscovery.com";>http://www.melleridiscovery.com > <= > /A>=20 > </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C66C8A.D4E71B00-- > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association - Digest Version > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > > > End of gecko Digest > > _______________________________________________ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > gecko@lists.gekkota.com > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko > _______________________________________________ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
