Hi Cesar and all,

I have an older version of gaf/pcb under cygwin/windoze XP running at
home (the initial 20060123 tarball) on a P4 box and this runs as far as
(the recently solved bugs) allows it to.

I gave it a try with the recent tarballs, but to no avail (yet).

So yes, I'm still interested in applying patches and such for the
geda-cygwin port.

I'm gone try these two patches tonight, and inform you tomorrow about
any results.

Kind regards,

Bert Timmerman.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cesar Strauss
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: gEDA-dev: Re: Cygwin port

A small note: I try to read this list regularly, so there is no need to 
put my address in the Cc: field for future replies on this thread.

Ales Hvezda wrote:
> Hi Carlos and Cesar (and all),
> 
> [snip]
>> I was reviewing them to commit the changes into CVS, but I need to
know:
>>  - if both patches are still needed to compile cygwin (the first one
is
>> newer and seems to include the second).

I have evaluated those two Cygwin patches (the newer one is mine) and 
placed my comments on the respective threads on the SF patch tracker. I 
also sent updates for those patches to address their shortcomings.

See:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1564796&group_
id=161080&atid=818428
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1564805&group_
id=161080&atid=818428

>>  - Ales, you were doing some work for the Mingw port recently, and
you
>> disabled the cygwin port. Is there some reason to _don't_ support
cygwin
>> (i.e: don't commit these patches into CVS) ?
> 
>       I have nothing against re-enabling the cygwin port.  I did
> disable it because there were problems in the past, but they were
> addressed with patches like this.
> 

In my personal opinion, the Cygwin platform on Windows demands less 
effort to port and gives a greater chance of success. The downside, 
sometimes, is lower performance and more use of disk space. In the long 
term, a native version (MinGW) is more valuable.

>>  - I don't have cygwin so, if the patches are integrated into CVS, I
>> will need at least one volunteer to test them. Anyone wants to? 

I volunteer. However, as the patch author, I would be highly suspect... 
Anyone else?

> 
>       Cesar Strauss was the originator and/or creator of the cgwin
> binary packages on the gEDA website.

About the Cygwin binary packages:
Jason Childs was the one that created and uploaded them, I merely 
discovered a more efficient way to distribute them. See this thread:

http://archives.seul.org/geda/dev/Jun-2006/msg00071.html
which continues on
http://archives.seul.org/geda/dev/Jul-2006/msg00000.html

I did write a (slightly outdated) wiki page on how to build gEDA/gaf 
from source on Cygwin.

I am currently working to update these binary packages to provide newer 
versions of the gEDA applications. I intend to submit these packages to 
the Cygwin project, so they could add them to their distribution. This 
way, there would be no need to keep Cygwin binary packages on the gEDA 
site, after all.

> Cesar do you have a more recent 
> patch or patches for the work that you did for cygwin?  Doesn't have
to
> be perfect, but I would like to get gEDA/gaf working out of the box
under
> cygwin and at some point get the mingw port functional too.
> 
>                                                               -Ales
> 

OK, Ales, I will put that on the top of my list. I sent some new patches

  to the tracker, already. This time, I used CVS instead of a snapshot, 
and have split them for easier review.


> PS. Note, I'm quite interested in getting gEDA/gaf building and
running under
>     cygwin and/or mingw, however, I am not volunteering to create or
maintain
>     the ports.  That's latest position. :-)
> 
> 

I am willing to put some effort into it. Namely, I intend to help on:

1) Keeping the Cygwin port up-to-date.
2) The same on MinGW, in the long run.
3) Answering questions about installation on Windows, on the geda-user 
and cygwin mailing lists.
4) Filing (Windows-related) bugs an helping to solve them.
5) Evaluating and commenting on (Windows-related) patches

Cesar




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