On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:30:20 +0000, Peter Clifton wrote: > I've wondered in the past.. would people (users / developers) object to > making the GTK HID for PCB more in line with gschem's GTK UI. (Or vica > versa)
Object? Did I miss a smiley? GUI differences in protel were minor compared to gschem/pcb. Yet, they were a constant source of annoyance. > I'm not quite sure how we'd get round the key-bindings, but perhaps one > idea would be to ship two (or four) sets. PCB: (classic PCB / gEDA > like), or gEDA: (classic gEDA / PCB like). Clearly if we did this, a > brand new install ought to default to a coherent set. I don't care about install routines. These are one-off jobs. Most users will use their preferred distro anyway. > If we had to nail down what it is about gEDA and PCB which make them > feel like different applications, what is it? > > Keybindings? definitely. This is the one that really hurts. Can't count the number of times I typed [n] in pcb to start a track. Or [n] in gschem to change a text item. > (those are the ones which trip me up moving between them) > Colours? nah. > Grid style / behaviour as it zooms? I hardly change the grid in gschem. So this is a none-issue to me. > Zoom style? (about point / warp to centre) This certainly is an item that makes the GUIs feel different. Add pan-at- the-edge to the list. I miss pcb edge panning in gschem. > Graphic style of toolbar > icons? No. I'd even say, a different look is a goodthing(tm). I find the superficial similarity of eagle layout and schematic tool irritating. > Dialogs? Yes. I miss properties dialogs in pcb a lot. > Menus? Both should conform closer to common practice. E.g. Search and replace is well hidden in both. > Object selection styles? Should be the same. However, I don't remember being trapped by differences. While I am in wishlist-mode: Please add more optical feedback to both applications. Change of mouse style when near the end of a track was a huge step forward. This should be generalized -- Every kind of action should correspond to its own mouse shape. In addition, I miss handles on selected objects. There is a reason, why about every other graphics tool I know, uses them. Big thanks for pushing geda forward! ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak http://lilalaser.de/blog _______________________________________________ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user