On 11/12/09, Torsten Wagner <torsten.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > like style with fancy pretty 3d windows (e.g., KDE) to a minimalistic design > and the command-line (e.g., awesome wm).
My favourite is ratpoison. > I killed more and more > proprietary programs and replaced bloated GUI-programs by "KISS"(keep it > simple stupid)-versions. Thank you both for the former and for the latter. > Now, it is time to look again into EDA. > > Initially, I believe that according to my work habits, gEDA and pcb might be > more suitable to me then KiCad. However, I can not see the ongoing usage and > development of this projects in the near future. I saw actual releases for > both packages but do not know whether there is really an active development > in progress. It is, and it's very intensive; for details, you can look at the GIT logs and gEDA mailing lists archives. > Package management systems of different distributions ship rather > old > versions and the blogosphere and Internet is rather quite about this > packages. Many people on this list are used to build gEDA programs from sources, either released or GIT heads. > Furthermore, can I do all the stuff I was used to do in eagle with gEDA and > pcb > ? > Are there any shortcuts or limitations ? Any program has limitations. I don't feel competent in other parts of gEDA (the toolset covers an area which is too wide for me); for PCB the most essential are (of course, this is just my deeply personal opinion): * some lack of layers flexibility (no blind and buried vias, same design rules for all layers, limited quantity and functions of non-copper layers) * texts in non-latin scripts are not supported; there may be only one font per board * some complicated features should be used with caution; e.g. sometimes polygons may disappear when you move from one part of the board to another or even produce a segmentation fault You can ask here if you want to know about a particular feature. > How mature and stable are the suite yet ? > Can it be really considered for serious work ? I think these are questions you should answer youself after testing the programs. There are people on this list (and I believe, off this list) who do use these programs for serious work; nobody can tell you if you'll want to use them for your particular design. > As for me I have no problem to get my hand dirty and crawl around in config- > files and text-files. I even will love to see that maybe one or another task > can > be done by simply writing some text-files in emacs (or vi to avoid a war). > For Eagle, I liked the little command line at the bottom of the window, > which > allowed me to type in comments rather then clicking and searching around in > GUI-settings. If there is something like this in gschem or pcb I would be > happy to use it. It is: AFAIK gschem uses guile; in PCB the scripting abilities are not so rich; as another way, processing PCB files with sed/awk/perl is used. There were a plugin written by igor2 <ig...@inno.bme.hu> (http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/May-2009/msg00371.html) to integrate PCB with many different languages like python and lua, though I can't provide any details about it. HTH; probably, someone else will answer better than me, Ineiev _______________________________________________ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user