Kai-Martin Knaak <k...@lilalaser.de> writes: > Stephan Boettcher wrote: > >> Why is there so much discussion here about the needs of potential new >> users, instead of the needs of current, loving, existing users? Let's >> make the tools perfect for us (that includes discoverability and >> documentation improvements), and not cater for not-yet-users. > > In my case, this is essentially the same. If students find geda more > difficult and less attractive than eagle, I have a hard time to convince > them to use the right tool.
Why do you have this notion of _right tool_? Let them use what they want. My colleagues use eagle. I review their gerbers with gerbv. They envy my hierachical schematics and scripting fu, but still, they are happy. All I say is: look if you want help from me with these things, use gEAD, else, do it yourself. >> In the end, the development caters the needs of whoever is doing the >> development, > > and whose contributions get accepted. There is a heap of 45 patches for > pcb and 20 patches for geda rotting on launchpad. just what I said see below ... >> That brings me to another point: I somehow feel a barrier of entry for >> contributing code to gEDA/PCB, more than with other projects. This is a >> combination of a lot of little details which have been discussed before. > > ack. > It starts with a developer mailing list that is closed to mortal users but > discusses issues which affect said users. The wiki only features edit buttons > on application. That are two of those little details, major ones. -- Stephan _______________________________________________ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user