Kakek centeng remo ini selalu menggunakan kesempatan yang sekecil apapun untuk
menyerang, karena dalam perdebatan langsung yang serius tentang kaum
remo-imperialis Tiongkok, sudah sejak bertahun-tahun tidak bisa membantah
argumentasi yang diajukan oleh beberapa pendebat, BUKAN HANYA argumentasi yang
saya ajukan. Coba pakai akal sehat dan logika!!! Masalahnya bukan soal kata
"merindukan". Masalahnya adalah "APA" YANG DIRINDUKAN??? Yang satu merindukan
"Soviet atau Stalin", kemudian orang membandingkannya dengan orang lain yang
merindukan " zaman Suharto". Jelas kedua objek kerinduan itu diletakkan dalam
satu konteks dan satu level. Kenapa saya yang kasih komentar dengan mendudukan
masalahnya dengan benar, lantas si centeng dompleng untuk serampangan menuduh
"nenek dalam tempurung selalu hidup dalam mimpinya sendiri.... bayangan yang
dimimpikannya sendiri???? Inilah ocehan orang goblok yang tidak pernah bisa
mendapatkan argumentasi logis untuk membantah saya.... Apakah soal penghisapan
dan penindasan di Tiongkok yang selalu saya belejeti merupakan "mimpi" saya
sendiri?? apakah soal penjajahan tiongkok melalui penyewaan tanah selama 99
tahun seperti terhadap rakyat negeri tetangganya Laos, merupakan bayangan yang
saya mimpikan sendiri???? Apakah Tiongkok punya basis militer merupakan mimpi,
bukan kenyataan??? Begitu banyak sudah dipostingkan bahan-bahan yang berkaitan
dengan masalah-masalah itu..
Manap sudah menghentikan diskusi tentang masalah perbandingan, tapi si centeng,
begitu lihat ada orang yang tidak sependapat dengan saya, kontan menggunakan
kesempatan untuk menyerang saya.
Lihat saja ejekan yang digunakan "nenek dalam tempurung" ..Padahal sudah
dibuktikan berkali-kali justru dirinyalah yang telah memperlihatkan
keterbatasan absolut dalam pengetahuan politik dunia, sehingga pantas disebut
kakek centeng remo dalam tempurung!!! Pengetahuannya hanya terbatas pada apa
yang dikatakan pemerintah Tkk..makanya pantas disebut juga corong dan terompet
kaum penguasa Remo -imperialis tiongkok!!!
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 06:28:34 AM GMT+1, kh djie dji...@gmail.com
[GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Rindu ucapkan ......Rindu
katakan.........................................Dapatkah kumbang mencapai
rembulan...?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Iv_p2hrIk
Op vr 27 mrt. 2020 om 04:35 schreef ChanCT sa...@netvigator.com [GELORA45]
<GELORA45@yahoogroups.com>:
Bung Manap, ... menghadapi nenek dalam tempurung yang selalu hidup dalam
mimpinya sendiri itu! Begitulah dalam menanggapi setiap tulisan, selalu dengan
bayangan apa yang dimimpikannya sendiri saja! Yaa,... bagaimana bisa nyambung?
Yang dibandingkan orang Sovyet dimasa lalu yang merindukan jaman Stalin dengan
orang Indonesia merindukan jaman Suharto, berubah jadi membandingkan jaman
Sovyet dengan jaman Suharto! Diperdebatkan sampai kiamat juga gak akan habis!
Ooouh, ... Rindu rasa hatiku,
karena kau pergi jauh, ... dst. dst. Hehehee, ...
On 26/3/2020 下午8:58, S Manap rana...@yahoo.se [GELORA45] wrote:
Ya, sudahlah. Tidak perlu masalah sekecil ini, yang semula bagi saya
hanya sekedar lucu-lucuan dijadikan bahan perdebatan. Bukan orang type saya
yang suka bertengkar dengan soal-soal sepele seperti ini.
Cukup saya akhiri sampai disini.
Den torsdag 26 mars 2020 13:40:22 CET, S Manap rana...@yahoo.se
[GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> skrev:
Jangan salah paham dalam menanggapi tulisan/pendapat orang. Yang
dipersoalkan itu kerinduan orang. Yang satu merindukan jaman Uni Sovyet. Sedang
yang satu lagi yang merindukan jama Orde Baru.
Terlalu dungu kalau ada orang yang membandingkan jaman Svyet Uni dan jaman
Orde Baru,
Den torsdag 26 mars 2020 13:27:48 CET, Tatiana Lukman
jetaimemuc...@yahoo.com [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> skrev:
Aneh, kok orang "kiri"bisa membandingkan Soviet Unie dengan ORBA
Suharto yang telah membantai jutaan rakyat tak berdosa!! Ah, sudah tentu mereka
yang anti-Stalin bisa juga langsung berargumentasi Stalin juga telah membunuh
jutaan orang di gulak. Itulah argumentasinya orang-orang anti-komunis!!
On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 01:20:34 PM GMT+1, S Manap rana...@yahoo.se
[GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Di Rusland banyak orang menindukan kehidupan di jaman Sovyet Uni yang
sudah lama berlalu. Di Indonesia banyak orang yang merindukan kehidupan "yang
enak" dijaman Orba/Soeharto berkuasa. "Enak hidup di jamanku" kata Soeharto.
Ya, sama-sama rindulah. Tentunya banyak yang masih ingat lagu lama:
Rindu rasa hatiku, Karena kau pergi jauh. ....... dast..dst....
Salam.
SM. Den torsdag 26 mars 2020 10:18:22 CET, Tatiana
lukmanjetaimemuc...@yahoo.com [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> skrev:
75% of Russians Say Soviet Era Was 'Greatest Time' in Country’s History – Poll
Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about
the Soviet Union over the years, with nostalgia toward the U.S.S.R. and
approval of Stalin hitting record highs in the past year or so.Andrei
Nikerichev / Moskva News Agency
Three out of four Russians think the Soviet era was the best time in their
country’s history, according to a survey published by the independent Levada
Center pollster on Tuesday.
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Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet Union
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Just 18% of Russian respondents said they disagree with the idea that the
Soviet Union was the best time in their country’s history, Levada said.
Despite this, only 28% of respondents said they would want to “return to the
path that the Soviet Union was following.” Fifty-eight said they support
Russia's “own, special way” and 10% said they preferred the European path of
development.
When asked to name the things they associate with the Soviet era, 16% of
respondents pointed to “future stability and confidence” and 15% said they
associated it with “a good life in the country.” Eleven percent said they
associate the Soviet era with personal memories from their childhood or youth.
Only a small portion of those surveyed said they had negative associations with
the Soviet Union. The economic deficit, long lines and coupons were named by 4%
of respondents each, while the Iron Curtain, economic stagnation and political
repressions were named by 1% each, the Levada Center said.
Levada sociologist Karina Pipiya told the Vedomosti business daily that while
Russians tend to view the Soviet era in a mostly positive light, their personal
memories of that time have largely been replaced by a general image of social
stability, confidence in the future and a good life during that time.
According to Pipiya, nostalgia for the Soviet Union is more common among
older generations, but it exists among younger people as well. The so-called
romanticization of the Soviet past doesn’t necessarily equal a wish for the
Soviet system’s return, Vedomosti quoted Pipia as saying..
Andrei Kolesnikov, a senior associate at the Carnegie Center Moscow think tank,
told Vedomosti that the poll’s results are a reflection of the public’s
sentiments toward Russia’s current reality.
“The Soviet era may not be seen as a time of high living standards, but as a
time of justice. Today's state capitalism is viewed as unfair: the injustice is
in distribution, access to goods and infrastructure. And this feeling is
growing stronger,” Vedomosti quoted Kolesnikov as saying.
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