On Nov 30, 2011, at 1:48 PM, cyrille henry wrote:

> Le 30/11/2011 17:32, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
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>> On 2011-11-30 16:47, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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>>> We've long since dropped the vanilla requirement
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>> well, not in Gem world.
>> there are very few objects in help-patches that are neither in Gem nor
>> in Pd-vanilla.
> i think there are none.
> and i don't want to change that.

Are there any specific problems?  It seems silly to me to have worse help 
patches because of strict ideology.  That will hurt people learning Gem.  The 
people who want strict vanilla are advnaced people anyway, so they can ignore 
the "... cannot create" messages if they don't want to install anything else.

The fact is that there are a lot of libraries that are as easy or easier to 
install then Gem.  And Gem could benefit by using some of those libraries, like 
[getdir].  You simply cannot do that with Pd-vanilla.  And things like 
[pix_multiblob] already in effect depend on iemmatrix, since it was designed to 
work with that library.

I'd happily post Windows and Mac OS X binaries to puredata.info/downloads if 
that's what it would take.

.hc


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