I spent some more time digging into 2, and while I didn't find anything
that directly stated that you aren't allowed to do that, without explicit
support I think it flies in the face of how C++ templates, types, etc. work
to the point where if you *did* find a way to do it, it would almost
certainly be a bug or an oversight in the standard somewhere. So unless
they do adopt one of those standards I saw proposed and we wait a good
number of years for it to be implemented in all the compilers we support
(one said it targeted C++23) I think templates, while slightly gross, are
really the only way to make it work.

Gabe

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 2:53 PM Jason Lowe-Power <ja...@lowepower.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 2:48 PM Gabe Black via gem5-dev <gem5-dev@gem5.org>
> wrote:
>
>> 1. Sounds good, I'll hopefully have some time to put together a CL in no
>> too long (weekend?).
>>
>> 2. I 5ries to figure out a way to do it without the template that wasn't
>> really gross a somewhat fragile and wasn't able to, but that would
>> definitely be preferable. I'll keep thinking about it, but the internet
>> didn't seem to have any ideas either. Unfortunately using constexpr won't
>> work like that Jason, although I wish it did and found a couple unadopted
>> (as far as I know) standards proposals to that effect.
>>
>
> Yeah, that's what I found, too :).
>
>
>>
>> 3. Sounds good. Likely this weekend?
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:15 PM Bobby Bruce via gem5-dev <gem5-dev@gem5.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 1) Seems fine to me.
>>>
>>> 2) I remember looking into this and I agree with Jason, it involves
>>> template magic which I'm not a huge fan of. I feel like in order to add
>>> these compile time asserts we'd be sacrificing some
>>> readability/ease-of-usability of bitfields.hh. This may just be a "me
>>> thing", but something about templates confuse me whenever I need to deal
>>> with them.
>>>
>>> 3) In truth, our minimum supported Clang version is 3.9 in practise (We
>>> even state on our website's building documentation that we support Clang
>>> 3.9 to 9: http://www.gem5.org/documentation/general_docs/building). I
>>> didn't realize we still have "3.1" hardcoded in the SConscript and would be
>>> happy for this to be bumped up to 3.9. Our compiler tests do not test with
>>> versions of clang before 3.9, so, at present, we aren't doing much to help
>>> those using versions older than 3.9. I'd love to bump up to c++14 also.
>>> While I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons, I personally would like to
>>> use C++14's deprecation attribute for if/when we start deprecating gem5 C++
>>> APIs: https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/attributes/deprecated
>>>
>>
> We already do use the deprecated attribute (see
> https://gem5.googlesource.com/public/gem5/+/refs/heads/develop/src/base/compiler.hh#55
> ).
>
> We should be able to get rid of this:
> https://gem5.googlesource.com/public/gem5/+/refs/heads/develop/src/base/compiler.hh#93
> And maybe this:
> https://gem5.googlesource.com/public/gem5/+/refs/heads/develop/src/base/compiler.hh#69
>
>
>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Bobby R. Bruce
>>> Room 2235,
>>> Kemper Hall, UC Davis
>>> Davis,
>>> CA, 95616
>>>
>>> web: https://www.bobbybruce.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:25 AM Jason Lowe-Power via gem5-dev <
>>> gem5-dev@gem5.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Gabe,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:46 AM Gabe Black via gem5-dev <
>>>> gem5-dev@gem5.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1. Use __builtin_expect() for panic, fatal, etc. Preexisting library
>>>>> functions like assert probably already have this, but our versions don't
>>>>> and have similar behavior patterns. This should improve performance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seems like a good idea. It shouldn't hurt anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Create template versions of the bits, etc functions in bitfields.hh
>>>>> which use static_assert to verify that the bounds are in the right order.
>>>>> Unless the bounds change at runtime (probably very uncommon in practice)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like the idea of static asserts, but don't like the change in the
>>>> syntax away from a simple function call.
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to instead use a constexpr function parameter?
>>>>
>>>> What we would really like is
>>>>
>>>> template <class T>
>>>> inline
>>>> T
>>>> bits(T val, *constexpr *int first, *constexpr *int last)
>>>> {
>>>>     int nbits = first - last + 1;
>>>>     *static*_assert((first - last) >= 0);
>>>>     return (val >> last) & mask(nbits);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> However, after spending 15-30 minutes researching it doesn't seem like
>>>> this is easy to do today. Gabe... you seem to know much more template
>>>> magic. Maybe there's a way?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> bits(foo, 2, 1) => bits<2, 1>(foo)
>>>>>
>>>>> Then we get the free compile time checking of bounds most of the time
>>>>> without big overhead otherwise. Something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> template <int first, int last, typename T>
>>>>> constexpr T
>>>>> bits(T val)
>>>>> {
>>>>>     static_assert(first > last);
>>>>>     return bits(val, first, last);
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Our new min gcc is version 5 which supports c++14. Our min clang is
>>>>> 3.1 which does not, but 3.4 does. Do we want to bump the min clang version
>>>>> up and move from C++11 to C++14? C++17 has more compelling features, but
>>>>> C++14 fixed some annoyances, at least according to wikipedia:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B14
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I don't see any reason not to bump our minimum clang version. If
>>>> we do go up to c++14, we can simplify compiler.hh significantly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for starting this conversation!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gabe
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