Hi guys,

I merely wanted to say that I really encourage the discussion. There are plenty 
trade-offs in the implementation of the coherency protocol, and I am sure there 
are “unintentional features” lurking in the implementation.

Andreas

From: Nizamudheen Ahmed <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, 5 January 2015 03:44
To: biswabandan panda <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: gem5 users mailing list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
Andreas Hansson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [gem5-users] UpgradeReq command and impact on next-level cache

Hi Biswa,

Thanks for clarifying on the GEM5 implementation and your thoughts on 
invalidation. I wanted to experiment on these lines and wanted to bounce the 
idea with the community. Thanks.


BR/Nizam

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:11 PM, biswabandan panda 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
     As gem5 uses non-inclusive hierarchy, the 1st point is not applicable. 
Your second point makes sense. It is not mandatory  to invalidate at the LLC. 
The block at the LLC should be invalidated if the hierarchy is an exclusive one.

What gem5 does is at a given instant of time, It makes sure that only one cache 
is the owner (across all L1s and L2)
So it invalidates at the L2 also.





On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Nizamudheen Ahmed via gem5-users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Andreas,

iMHO, There are a couple of cases where it may not be required to invalidate 
line in lower levels

1. Inclusive caches: I would assume that the lower level inclusive caches 
should , by definition of inclusiveness, hold all the lines a higher level 
cache has.

2. Shared last level cache: the last level cache (the cache just ahead of main 
memory) may choose to not invalidate the line on a upgradereq. Rational: as 
long as exclusivity is maintained by private cache in earlier level, share LLC 
is strictly not required to invalidate the line on upgradereq.

Kindly correct me if implicit assumptions I am making is distorting the 
reasoning:)

Thanks and regards
Nizam


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On 04-Jan-2015, at 6:15 pm, Andreas Hansson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Nizam,

What do you suggest the lower-level cache should do? The UpgradeReq is 
ultimately there to ensure that a cache can get a line in exclusive state (E) 
to perform a write (M).

Andreas

From: Nizamudheen Ahmed via gem5-users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: Nizamudheen Ahmed 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, gem5 users mailing list 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Sunday, 4 January 2015 08:47
To: gem5 users mailing list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [gem5-users] UpgradeReq command and impact on next-level cache

Hi,

I am using classic memory-model in GEM5. I observed that an UpgradeReq command 
invalidates the line in cache. This behavior is acceptable for peer-caches in 
the same-level. However, i am not sure if the UpgradeReq should invalidate the 
cache line in the lower level caches (Caches closer to the main-memory are 
lower levels, in my terminology). Can someone through light on this?

BR/Nizam


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