Hi Joel,

Thank you for your time in reviewing this work. In Section 3.1, under this 
proposed
mitigation the tunnel router ideally indeed must check for all encapsulation 
formats in
which an IPv4 address may be embedded within an IPv6 address. This means that
the router must check for all known protocol-41 encapsulation formats and must 
be
modified  to check for any new formats should new ones be specified. In  
practice, if
a router is configured to check only a subset  of encapsulation formats, then 
it  
will be
immune only to attacks in which the attacker uses the  configured encapsulation
formats in the source/destination address of  the attack packet.

Certain IPv6 address formats (e.g., 6to4, ISATAP, etc.) include a well-known
"token" indicating that an IPv4 address is embedded. Other formats (e.g., 6rd)
do not include such a token and hence would require special configuration at
the router to indicate which IPv6 prefixes within the routing domain are 6rd 
ones.

Do you feel there are any additional clarifications on this needed beyond what
already appears in Section 3.1?

Fred and Gabi




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From: Joel M. Halpern <j...@joelhalpern.com>
To: Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.bar...@gmail.com>
Cc: gen-art@ietf.org; Joel Jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com>; Ron Bonica 
<rbon...@juniper.net>; draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-lo...@tools.ietf.org; IPv6 
Operations  <v6...@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Tue, December 28, 2010 1:43:14 PM
Subject: [Gen-art] review: draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-loops-01.txt

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, 
please see the FAQ at <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.

Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may 
receive.

Document: draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-loops-01.txt
    Routing Loop Attack using IPv6 Automatic Tunnels:
        Problem Statement and Proposed Mitigations
Reviewer: Joel M. Halpern
Review Date: 28-Dec-2010
IETF LC End Date: 29-Dec-2010
IESG Telechat date: 06-Jan-2011)

Summary: Nearly ready for publication as an Informational RFC

Major issues: It is unclear in the document what assumptions section 3.1 makes 
about the relationship between supported tunnels and checked embedded 
addresses.  Is there an assumption that the router only has to check for 
addresses in the format and prefix it supports?  I hope so. Otherwise, a router 
 
seems to be expected to look at an arbitrary IPv6 addresses, guess whether it 
has an embedded IPv4 addresses, and perform filter checks on that guessed 
addresses against its own addresses.
If indeed their is a relationship, then it would really help if section 3.1 
said 
that.
Unfortunately, I am afraid no such relationship is assumed.  If not, I would 
like to see significantly better explanation of how the router is to reliably 
know that there is a 6rd or ISATAP address embedded in the v6 address.

Minor issues:

Nits/editorial comments:
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