Hi Meral,

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Meral Shirazipour
<meral.shirazip...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hi Donald,
>   Thank you for considering the comments. Please see below.
>
> Best Regards,
> Meral
>
> ---
> Meral Shirazipour
> Ericsson
> Research
> www.ericsson.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Eastlake [mailto:d3e...@gmail.com]
> Sent: June-20-12 15:24
> To: Meral Shirazipour
> Cc: draft-ietf-trill-clear-correct....@tools.ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org; Ayan 
> Banerjee
> Subject: Fwd: Gen-ART Last Call review of 
> draft-ietf-trill-clear-correct-03.txt
>
> Hi Meral,
>
> A real response this time...
>
> Thanks for your thorough review. See below:
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Meral Shirazipour 
> <meral.shirazip...@ericsson.com> wrote:
>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for
>> draft-ietf-trill-clear-correct-03.txt. For background on Gen-ART,
>> please see the FAQ at 
>> <http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html>.
>>
>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
>> you may receive.
>>
>>
>> Document: draft-ietf-trill-clear-correct-03
>> Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour
>> Review Date: June-18-2012
>> IETF LC End Date: June-20-2012
>> IESG Telechat date: June-21-2012
>>
>>
>> Summary:
>> The document is ready for publication as a standards track RFC,
>> however I have a few comments.
>
> Thanks.
>
>> Minor issues:
>>
>> TRILL-PORT-VER sub-TLV should be "PORT-TRILL-VER" sub-TLV.(there are a
>> few
>> occurrences)
>
> Yes, thanks for spotting that.
>
>> Nits/editorial comments:
>>
>> - Suggestion: [Page 6], line 2, spell out first occurrence LSP
>
> OK.
>
>> - Suggestion: [Page 6], line 5, "overload bit on" ----> "overload bit set"
>
> OK.
>
>> - Clarification:[Page 6], Section 2.1, line 5, add a comma "," after
>> "traffic engineered frames"
>
> OK.
>
>> - Typo:[Page 6], last word, "contain" --missing s--> "contains"
>
> I believe the current wording is correct.
>
> [msh] sorry about that.
>
>> - Suggestion: [Page 7], Section 2.2, line 2, spell out first
>> occurrence of "Reverse Path Forwarding Check" and then use "RPFC" in
>> the rest of the document.
>
> It depends a little on the context but  agree that most can be changed to 
> RPFC.
> [msh] ok
>
>> - Clarification:[Page 10], Section 2.4.2.3, line 5, sentence starting
>> with
>> "RB2 MUST advertise ...": we could omit the second occurrence of "it
>> might use" in that sentence.
>
> OK.
>
>> - Clarification:[Page 10], Section 2.4.2.3, 3rd line from last, "end
>> stations connected to RB": "a RB" or "RBs"?
>
> Should be "end stations connected to RB3".
>
> [msh] ok
>
>> - Typo: [Page 11], Section 3.1,"( j, k)" --remove extra space--> "(j, k)"
>
> OK.
>
>> - Suggestion: [Page 11], Section 3.2, "already in flight" ---->
>> "already in transmission"
>
> I think the current wording is better.
>
> [msh] ok
>
>> - Typo [Page 12]:"many multi-destination frame"--missing s--> "many
>> multi-destination frames"
>
> OK.
>
>> - Clarification:[Page 13], Point 4. , Sentence 2: suggested clarification:
>>
>> "It does so by checking LSPs it receives and updating its link state
>> database for any of its nicknames held with higher priority by another
>> TRILL Switch that is IS-IS reachable."
>
> I have no problem dropping "in" so it says "...checking LSPs..."
> rather than "...checking in LSPs..." but I think the rest of the change you 
> suggest makes it slightly wrong and so would prefer to keep the rest of the 
> wording of that sentence.
>
> [msh] In this case I think keeping the "in" is actually better. I understand 
> the sentence but had to read it a few times.

OK.

>> - Typo [Page 14]:"unicast Channel message"--missing s-->"unicast
>> Channel messages"
>
> OK.
>
>> - Typo [Page 16]: Section 5.2,"Routeing" ----> "Routing"
>
> The spelling used in the ISO 10589:2002 standard's title and the naming of 
> this field therein includes the "e".
>
> [msh] ok
>
>> - Suggestion:[Page 16],last sentence, suggestion: "This safety margin
>> is called "Margin" below."
>
> OK.
>
>> - Typo [Page 18]:"a specified in [RFC6325]"--missing s-->"as specified
>> in [RFC6325]"
>
> OK.
>
>> - Suggestion: [Page 19], spell out first occurrence of EISS
>
> OK.
>
>> - Suggestion:[Page 21], Point 1, not clear what the new text becomes.
>> Suggestion: refer to last paragraph of section 3.1 instead of
>> paragraph before 3.2, and propose the new sentence.
>
> OK.
>
>> - Clarification:[Page 21], Point 2, it is not clear what the change is
>> to section 3.2 of RFC6327.
>
> OK.
>
>> - Clarification:[Page 21], Point 3, it would be clearer to say "bullet
>> A9 is added" (if this is an event like the rest of the bullets in
>> section 3.3 of
>> RFC6327)
>
> Guess this does need clarification as its not an event, its a "o ..." type 
> bullet item "after the list of events". I'll clarify.
>
> [msh]ok
>
>> - Clarification:[Page 22], section 10.1,"disagreement over the
>> Designated VLAN or the like". Suggestion: replace the term "or the
>> like" with other examples or remove the term.
>
> How about replacing "... in the face of partitioned VLANs or disagreement 
> over the Designated VLAN or the like in a link." with "... in the face of 
> decreased VLAN connectivity in a link such as partitioned VLANs, many VLANs 
> disabled on ports, or disagreement over the Designated VLAN."
>
> [msh] ok
>
>> -Typo: [Page 22], section 10.1, "each others frames"---->"each other's
>> frames"
>
> OK.
>
>> -Typo: [Page 24], "DRB SHOULD NOT appointed"---->"DRB SHOULD NOT
>> appoint", "an VLAN"---->"a VLAN", "RBridged"---->"RBridge"
>
> OK.
>
>> -Clarification:[Page 25], Section 11, Point 1, "The previously
>> reserved", reference to document.
>
> OK. The block of nicknames from 0xFFC0 through 0xFFFE is reserved by the 
> TRILL base protocol document [RFC6325].
>
>> - Clarification: [page 19/page 27], Informative References, reference
>> [802], to verify which standard we want to refer to for Canonical Format 
>> Indicator:
>>
>> If it is "IEEE Std 802-2001: IEEE Standard for Local and Metropolitan
>> Area
>> Networks: Overview and Architecture", then the date should be 7
>> February 2001."
>
> All copies I have seen clearly say 8 March 2001 on the cover.
>
> [msh] ok, since the reference is only for a definition. I made a typo too, it 
> is 7 Feb 2002 that I saw-maybe I looked at the wrong document: 
> http://standards.ieee.org/about/get/802/802.html ? )

Well, I went back and double checked... And the actual cover date of
the copy I have, which was the one distributed to IEEE 802 members via
the annual CD of all 802 standards, says 8 March 2002, which is what
it actually says in the draft, not 2001 as I typed above. Anyway, I'm
going to leave it as is for now.

Thanks,
Donald
=============================
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
 d3e...@gmail.com

>> However this specific document does not define CIF. You may want to
>> refer to 802.1Q-2005.
> [Should be CFI above.]
>
> [msh] ok
>
> While "IEEE Std 802-2001: IEEE Standard for Local and Metropolitan Area 
> Networks: Overview and Architecture" does not define the acronym CFI, it does 
> define "canonical format" and "noncanonical format".
> There is no IEEE Std 802.1Q-2005 any more, it having been replaced by IEEE 
> Std 802.1Q-2011 which does not define the acronym CFI. Doing some searches, 
> although 802.1Q-2011 replaces the CFI bit in Customer VLAN tags with the DEI 
> bit, there are a few occurrences of "canonical" left in 802.1Q-2011, most to 
> say that bridges conformant to 802.1Q-2011 will interoperate with bridges 
> that believe in the CFI bit as long as those bridges don't actually have any 
> Token Ring interfaces so they will always set the CF bit to zero. Quoting 
> from page 3 of
> 802.1Q-2011: "The meanings of the terms Canonical format and Noncanonical 
> format are discussed in IEEE Std 802.".
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> =============================
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
>  d3e...@gmail.com
>
>> Thanks,
>> Meral
>>
>> ---
>> Meral Shirazipour
>> Ericsson
>> Research
>> www.ericsson.com
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