This is highly inappropriate: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beria&diff=3706794&oldid=3691439(at that is just the last one, I can give you both a pile bigger than the Everest)
And none of you are seing me complain about it. A single mail with irony and you run around claiming misogyny and rudeness? As the meme says: Bitch, please<http://deborahdekrem.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/4f35923e34365_bitch-please.png> ! _____ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* On 6 May 2012 14:35, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Excuse me, Beria, but I agree that your tone is, in fact, > highly inappropriate. > > From, > Emily > > > > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Béria Lima <beria.l...@wikimedia.pt>wrote: > >> Sarah, until i tell you to "fuck off" I'm being respectful to you. >> Actually the simple meaning of taking time in my volunteer, no paid work as >> a wikimedian to answer your mail show I respect you. >> >> To your idea: Ever heard of OTRS system? I'm sure with all your "work" >> for GLAM you already did, so if you have some image you want in commons ask >> them to release in a compatible license. >> >> HIRE someone to take pictures for us is a very idiotic idea, with the >> full amount of great photographers who take pictures for free to upload on >> commons, even more, hire the models as well can almost qualify as the most >> idiot idea ever. >> >> I do believe in volunteer work Sarah, which is the basis of our wiki way. >> Try to get something by paying people to do where you simply don't know if >> can be done by volunteers - since no one ever asked - is, in my humble >> opinion, stupid. >> _____ >> *Béria Lima* >> >> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a >> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* >> >> >> On 6 May 2012 14:24, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 5/6/12 1:20 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >>> >>> Good idea Sarah. Prove everyone in the world we don't even have enough >>> woman in the 9% of editors who can take a picture of some "trivial" thing. >>> Prove the world the only way to have picture of girls in commons is hiring >>> models and photographers to take them. >>> >>> I have NO idea why no one thought of this before! >>> >>> >>> Beria, I'd appreciate a more respectful tone. As always, with me, and >>> anyone else on this list. The snarkiness of your comment isn't one to make >>> me want to participate or share my brainstorms or ideas on this list. >>> >>> Just because you disagree with my idea, doesn't mean others might find >>> value in it, and it might improve content. Not every woman wants to edit >>> Wikipedia and I have met women who are photographers who have expressed >>> interest in uploading photographs and also women who would rather >>> participate as volunteers to be photographed. Using the term model does not >>> necessarily mean traditional "model body types" of women. Anyone can be a >>> model if you put them in front of a camera. >>> >>> Again, please be a bit more polite in your responses on this list. I >>> know I'm not the only person who would appreciate that. Thank you, >>> >>> -Sarah >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> *Béria Lima* >>> >>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a >>> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* >>> >>> >>> On 6 May 2012 14:13, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/6/12 1:07 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote: >>>> >>>> On 5/2/2012 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Don't miss >>>> http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad >>>> >>>> >>>> Where are women laughing as they chop up bloody sausage... >>>> >>>> To me I guess I see hostility and dominance in the kind of shots people >>>> have been complaining about. I don't think women should respond en masse >>>> with the same, but if no one responds at all, I feel it is my duty to >>>> mention bloody sausages. >>>> >>>> Of course, women have responded here, but I guess not enough of a ping >>>> in the fabric of world wide male dominance for me to keep my bloody >>>> sausages to my self... >>>> >>>> Hmmm... maybe I should write some of my favorite artists with >>>> suggestions.... >>>> >>>> Or get rich and commission a bunch of stuff I like... whatever the >>>> them... >>>> >>>> (Handsome male dogs of various breeds on their backs smiling and saying >>>> "Scratch my belly mommy.") >>>> >>>> >>>> There was an idea brainstormed a little while back with me and a few >>>> other folks about seeking funding to have a "Wiki Loves Women" photography >>>> event that wanted photographers to take photographs of women - and this >>>> wouldn't be some broad crowdsourced thing like WLM, we would work with >>>> photographers, various "models" etc and make this legit with releases, etc >>>> - doing whatever we needed them to be better represented doing, so to say. >>>> So, wearing certain articles of clothing (i.e. "go go boots"), certain make >>>> up looks or uses, hairstyles, - places that are often poorly represented >>>> regarding "women's stuff" (i.e. men don't get manicures that often, sorry) >>>> even as extreme as sex acts, I also wanted to just have women doing >>>> "things" like mowing the lawn and planting flowers or pan searing salmon or >>>> whatever things need videos to represent them (and no, these women wouldn't >>>> be nude :P). The latter was inspired by Jenny Geigel Mikulay's work at >>>> Alverno College where she had her students (it's a women's college) make >>>> films of things like playing drums, the art museum building kinetic >>>> architecture time-lapsed, etc. All of these videos have been uploaded to >>>> Commons. >>>> >>>> Someday I'll do it =) I can see it being a project that would be a >>>> perfect fit for Kickstarter. >>>> >>>> Sarah >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Sarah Stierch* >>>> *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* >>>> >>Mind the gap! Support Wikipedia women's outreach: donate >>>> >>today<https://donate.wikimedia.org/> >>>> << >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing >>> listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Sarah Stierch* >>> *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* >>> >>Mind the gap! 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