I'd say if mens shelters are notable enough to warrant their own articles 
perhaps that'd be best. 

Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)


On Jun 5, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a way to put information about men's shelters in the woman's shelter 
> article, without violating civility standards?
> 
> From,
> Emily
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:11 AM, <pu...@killerchihuahua.com> wrote:
> Couldn't hurt, and would give a place to direct people who try to insert 
> Men's shelter info into the Women's shelter article. 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Gendergap] Men's_shelter Re: New WikiProject Feminism
> Articles from WSG students
> From: koltzenb...@w4w.net
> Date: Tue, June 05, 2012 12:09 am
> To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
> <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org>
> 
> 
> Hi Ryan
> 
> thank you for your message explaining how you see the situation that might be 
> coming
> 
> what does everyone think about opening an article about "Men's shelter"
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_shelter ("Wikipedia does not have an 
> article with this exact name. Please 
> search for Men's shelter in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or 
> spellings.")
> 
> and use a few "male" user names to work on it seriously (there is quite a lot 
> of facts to make known, I 
> think), then see what happens
> 
> my2cents is that this would cost us not even three Guineas
> 
> any opinions?
> cheers
> Claudia
> 
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:12:46 -0700, Ryan Kaldari wrote
> > Just a quick word of warning... you should expect interference at the " 
> > Women's shelter" article from the highly active "men's rights" activists 
> > on Wikipedia. They have been pushing the point of view that women's 
> > shelters are discriminatory against men, that the women's shelter 
> > movement is part of a conspiracy to hide the "true statistics" about 
> > male victims of domestic violence, and that women's shelters are just 
> > scams to get government money, etc. If the students run into problems, 
> > just have them drop a message on the WikiProject Feminism talk page.
> > 
> > Ryan Kaldari
> > 
> > On 6/4/12 6:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
> > > Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to 
> > > ask for help from some of you 
> experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
> > >
> > > I'm a professor of Women's&  Gender Studies, and for their senior 
> > > capstone project, I've had a group of 
> WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. 
> They've selected articles from 
> the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been 
> researching, writing, and 
> revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to 
> post the articles in class today (a 
> few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week 
> of the term).
> > >
> > > It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present 
> > > research for the Wikipedia 
> audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas 
> accessible to larger audience, and 
> more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their 
> professors tell them not to use it, so it 
> was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the 
> quarter working on it. It's also been 
> very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with 
> wiki markup and Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the 
> > > fold? I'm not expecting my 
> students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, 
> and they're nervous. As with any 
> group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these 
> pieces will need more help than 
> others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
> > >
> > >
> > > American women's firsts
> > > Feminism in Thailand
> > > Feminism& BDSM
> > > Metaformic theory
> > > Women's shelters
> > > Genderfuck
> > > Feminist pedagogy
> > >
> > > Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my 
> > > students.
> 
> 
> thanks & cheers,
> Claudia
> koltzenb...@w4w.net
> 
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