For what it's worth, this issue is apparently discussed in the categorisation guidelines, which recommend "Both male and female [subjects] should continue to be filed in the appropriate gender-neutral role category..." in cases where we only have one gender-specific category; they should only be moved out of the main category if we're doing a complete gender subdivision (as is the case with, eg, most sporting topics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity,_gender,_religion_and_sexuality#Gender Of course, guidelines do not always govern actual practice on the ground! A. On 25 April 2013 15:52, Leslie Carr <lc...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Salon has also picked this up - > http://www.salon.com/2013/04/25/wikipedia_moves_women_to_american_women_novelists_category_leaves_men_in_american_novelists/ > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:13 AM, María Sefidari <kewlshr...@yahoo.es> wrote: >> The New York Times also has an article about this: >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/opinion/sunday/wikipedias-sexism-toward-female-novelists.html >> >> Kind regards, >> >> María >> >> Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil >> >> El 25/04/2013, a las 01:21, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> >> escribió: >> >> >> From The Huffington Post >> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/women-novelists-wikipedia-female-authors-american_n_3149345.html >> >> Attention female authors: you may be being segregated from your male peers >> on Wikipedia. On the online encyclopedia's "American Novelists" page, women >> authors are hard to find. Instead they have been filed primarily under >> "American Women Novelists." >> >> Vanity Fair contributing editor Elissa Schappell made this observation and >> posted on Facebook Wednesday: >> >> Women Writers take heed, you are being erased on Wikipedia. It would appear >> that in order to make room for male writers, women novelists (such as Amy >> Tan, Harper Lee, Donna Tartt and 300 others) have been moved off the >> "American Novelists" page and into the "American Women Novelists" category. >> Not the back of the bus, or the kiddie table exactly--except of course--when >> you google "American Novelists" the list that appears is almost exclusively >> men (3,387 men). The explanation on the pages is that the list of American >> Novelists is too long, therefore sub-categories are necessary. >> Idea: What about, "American Novelists with Penises" "American Novelists Who >> Are Vastly Over-Rated and Over-Paid" or "American Novelists Who Aren't Being >> Read But Should Be" (Here you'd find a lot of women, people of color...) >> >> Want to see where you're sitting for eternity? Take a peek. >> >> A disclaimer at the top of the American Novelists page reads, "This category >> may require frequent maintenance to avoid becoming too large. It should >> directly contain very few, if any, articles and should mainly contain >> subcategories." Schappell suggests that Wikipedia dealt with this space >> issue by moving the female authors off the page. >> >> The Huffington Post reached out to Wikipedia for a response to Schappell's >> claims but so far has not heard back. >> >> This is far from the first time that someone has expressed ire over the >> "second-class" treatment of female authors. VIDA, an organization dedicated >> to women in literary arts, pointed out that in 2011 the New York Times Book >> Review printed reviews of 520 male authors' books and only 273 books written >> by women. >> >> In a recent blog post on The Huffington Post, author Liza Palmer wrote about >> thedouble standard that exists in the literary world: >> >> All too often, when a woman writes a book about family and relationships the >> reader will sigh that she felt the narrator's inner monologues were "whiny" >> whereas when a male writer contemplates these same topics he is being >> "introspective." If a female writer uses humor in her dialogue she will be >> dismissed as "snarky", whereas if a male writer uses humor, he has a "biting >> wit." So called chick-lit writers get pinned with "predictable" endings, >> while male writers writing about the same topics have endings that are >> "satisfying." >> >> Perhaps it's time that Wikipedia realized that both men and women are great >> American novelists and should show up when you search for them. >> >> >> -- >> Sarah Stierch >> Wikimedia Foundation Program Evaluation Community Coordinator >> Donate today and keep it free! >> >> Visit me on Wikipedia! >> >> >> <Attached Message Part> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > > -- > Leslie Carr > Wikimedia Foundation > AS 14907, 43821 > http://as14907.peeringdb.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
