On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 16 November 2013 19:55, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Stumbled across this tonight.
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>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HOTTIE
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>> I have never seen that before!
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>> "For example, as a general rule, girls named Tiffany and Alicia are almost
>> always hot. Girls named Bertha and Bessie... not so much."
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> Just for the record:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GlassCobra/Essays/Hotties_are_always_notable
> is now the link. I've removed the shortcut because shortcuts are only
> supposed to be used in Wikipedia space, and this sure as heck doesn't belong
> in Wikipedia space!

Is there a policy/guideline against 'WP:' shortcuts that go to userspace?

We have a few categorised here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_to_user_namespace
... and obviously there are some which are not categorised like HOTTIE
and FUGLY (see below).

Ryan Kaldari tried to delete WP:HOTTIE via process in 2010 and was rejected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2010_August_5#WP:HOTTIE

It was also attempted in 2007:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2007_November_14#WP:HOTTIE_.E2.86.92_User:GlassCobra.2FHotties_are_always_notable

And in 2009 the redirect which was about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FUGLY was also not deleted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_June_29#Wikipedia:Notability_.28uglyness.29

WP:HOTTIE at least is an attempt to be a sarcastic critic of
notability and WP:AFD which is IMO pretty accurate ( or was when I
hung out in those parts ), and WP:FUGLY probably tries to do the same,
but doesnt have nearly the same value.  If the reader doesnt see a lot
of AFDs, WP:HOTTIE doesnt give enough context to be meaningful.

I think we should have a policy that WP:[anything] shortcuts lead the
reader to something in Wikipedia: space, but it may be hard to
convince the community that userspace pages cant have a shortcut,
especially when they have 250 incoming links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:HOTTIE&limit=250

We don''t have a shortcut prefix for userspace essays listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut#List_of_prefixes

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about that concerns you? Incidentally I've nom'd the redirect for
> deletion.

which is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2013_November_17#Wikipedia:Hotties_are_always_notable

--
John Vandenberg

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