On 7/3/2014 1:40 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:

The problem on en.wiki at least is that a vocal minority effectively prevent any enforcement of the civility policy.

The other problem is double standard enforcement. A bunch of guys may complain about mild incivility by a female and she'll get warned by an admin at an ANI. A guy can get away with a lot of bullying, insults and harassment before complaints are taken seriously and there is even an admin comment on an ANI.

That's why it's important to have the talk page of the gender gap task force page open to a listing of various ANIs and enforcement actions involving editors known to be women. A couple women going to each one and pointing out when these gender gap double standards obviously exist, over and over again would be a big help. That way there's some hope editors and admins especially will understand that double standards exist and are "bad"! Same with Harassment, incivility, etc. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Going to Admins talk pages directly after the rule "wrong" can be helpful. I've seen some obnoxious individuals get away with stuff because they'd chummy up to the Admin on their talk page and explain the righteousness of their behavior ad nauseam, as if to brainwash the admin. More squeaky wheel stuff.

CM



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