Carol: My guess is that pretty much everyone commenting here has and continues to, read the GGTF case. I also agree that Eric can be harsh and his use of certain words offends people. Likewise others in this case also didn't act very well.
Personally I think the term he used or the references you used are only offensive if people let them be and a lot of folks seem to be acting like children about using "naughty" words and language. Personally, I agree with your metaphor and it suits the situation quite well because I think parties on both sides of this debate are getting screwed and I don't think the Arbcom result is going to do anything but make sure no one wants to touch any gender/gender gap related articles. Its also noteworthy that disruption of talk pages is a common tactic used on WP by both sides of arguments, that's not an Eric specific thing but I do agree that needs to be addressed as an institutional problem on the project in general including the Arbcom. Turning pages into a battle grounds to justify blocks are something I have become familiar with lately. Sarah: My guess is that calling one Mr. and one Carol is because they do not know if its Miss, Ms. or Mrs and Mr. is what it is. I doubt its deliberately being disrespectful to her. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: > I must admit, I'm really fascinated by the fact that Eric Corbett is being > called "Mr. Corbett" and Carol Moore is being called "Carol Moore' in some > of these conversations. > > And anyone who has spent time on this mailing list and reads interviews, > articles, surveys, blahblah with women who edit Wikipedia (not just us > "uppity types"), knows damn well that CIVILITY is one of the reasons we > have a gender gap. > > So this is in fact, about the gender gap. > > -Sarah > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Carol Moore dc <carolmoor...@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> On 11/27/2014 11:22 AM, Tim Davenport wrote: >> >> >> Note well: in the matter of Mr. Corbett we are dealing with the issue of >> CIVILITY not the matter of THE WIKIPEDIA GENDER GAP. >> >> If you read the evidence and the GGTF page you'd see Eric Corbett was >> being disruptive (while not always uncivil) because he did not want the >> group to have any effective voice against incivility. Many women consider >> personal attacks AND harassment to be a major issues driving women off the >> site, once they sign up and start to edit. >> >> Thus Corbett's actions are highly relevant, as are those of a whole list >> of his friends and supporters and fellow travelers, on GGTF, at other >> gender gap related discussions, and at the Arbitration. >> >> Of course, we all can disagree on whether "gang bang" and "gang bangers" >> are good *metaphors* to describe their behavior at Arbitration. I still >> think it is, though if I wasn't totally fed up with Wikipedia, I probably >> would not use it. :-) For now, it's the best metaphor I've got to >> describe what I now see as Wikipedia's institutionalized harassment. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > > > -- > > Sarah Stierch > > ----- > > Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. > > www.sarahstierch.com > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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