The best way for you to help the goals of this list is for you to leave it. On 12 Dec 2014 19:04, "Reguyla" <regu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure how I became the bad guy here just because I think there is a > problem with civility and bias that needs to be addressed on Wikipedia. > Personally Chris, I don't think your comments directed at me are > particularly helpful to the goals of this list either. I wasn't the one > that voted 2 women out of the project and left a man that has a years long > history of abuse and multiple trips to the Arbcom on the site (and BTW I > say that as someone who isn't the least bit bothered by Eric). That was > Arbcom. But if you think that I somehow have negatively influenced anything > by participating in this list, then please explain that to me. Because I > for one would like to see Wikipedia change to be more inviting to all > editors, and treat all editors fairly, unlike the current status of things > on the project now. > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com > > wrote: >> >> This is also part of the problem - we have "helpful" contributions from >> people like Reguyla / Kumioko who is basically here to complain about how >> awful Arbcom are. Some months ago he was engaged in a campaign of personal >> abuse against arbitrators which to be frank is exactly the kind of thing >> that drives people away from those positions. >> On 12 Dec 2014 17:38, "regu...@gmail.com" <regu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Its not surprising that the arbcom would not like comments and be >>> critical of a venue they do not control and cannot themselves silence >>> critical comments about their decisions. I finf it unfortunate that an arb >>> doesnt want to join the mailing list merely because some people here do not >>> share the view that the arbcoms decisions are not all gold. >>> >>> >>> >>> I do agree that there were some comments that are off topic but thats >>> true of all the lists, not just this one. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the end, to me, if the arbs decide not to join this list because they >>> fear discussion, then we probably dont need them anyway and if they are >>> unwilling to listen or discuss issues pertaining to the project, including >>> poor decisions made by them, then that makes my thought process all the >>> more true. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original message------ >>> >>> *From: *Carol Moore dc >>> >>> *Date: *Fri, Dec 12, 2014 11:20 AM >>> >>> *To: *Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects; >>> >>> *Subject:*[Gendergap] Gender gap emails Arbitrator doesn't like >>> >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&diff=637703278&oldid=637701678 >>> Is a comment by an Arbitrator about things written last month or so >>> here, none by me, they don't like. >>> >>> Thinks it's necessary "the moderators get a grip on some of the things >>> being said there." (Moderator comments welcome here for guidance.) >>> >>> *https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-November/004930.html >>> >>> "a posting about legal repercussions" >>> >>> *https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-December/005008.html >>> >>> "suggesting doxxing/opposition research" >>> >>> * >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-December/005068.html >>> "plans" to >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-December/005079.html >>> "block vote at ArbCom elections with new editors recruited at editathons." >>> (actually just a suggestion by an annoyed editor) >>> >>> Hopefully they aren't proposing a standard tougher than than on all the >>> other mailing lists, none of which I personally belong to. >>> >>> CM >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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