Jim, Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I didn't mean to take issue with the original post (which raises a worthy point), merely to introduce another dimension that I learned about only recently, which came as a surprise. It's possible that the NY Times does a good job of maintaining a clear line between editorial and paid content; but the Boston Globe, which is owned by the NY Times, does not do that very well, and I suspect that is common of "medium-large" papers.
Gender bias in obituaries is a worthy topic unto itself. Just wanted to establish that not everything most people think of as an "obituary" is actually an obituary. Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:32 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > pete, > the article linked is listing NYTimes, WashPost, and LATimes. > not the paid notices > there seems to be no process to systematically incorporate these, even > when they provide strong support for notability. > > cheers > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what is an obituary." >> Newspapers also run "death notices" which (both in print and online) look >> much like obituaries, but are actually paid advertisements. I'm not even >> certain that the terminology ("obituary"=editorial, "death notice"=paid ad) >> is consistent across news outlets, I'm just reflecting what I learned from >> the specific papers I dealt with after my dad died. >> >> Any "systemic bias" in death notices would therefore consider a much >> bigger/more complex system than simply the editorial powers-that-be. You'd >> have to also consider what drives families to pay for death notices for >> some people more than others. >> >> -Pete >> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:07 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> some obits are not behind paywall. >>> a reference to do list would make good work. >>> >>> maybe we could get Mietchen or Magnus to make an automated list article >>> / category "list of people with obituaries" >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Links to lists in major news outlets (NYT, BBC, LA TImes, Toronto Star, >>>> etc.) along with commentary on gender bias in obits: >>>> >>>> http://forward.com/sisterhood/330631/for-women-gender-bias-continues-even-in-death/ >>>> >>>> The three women listed in the article do have WP articles. It would >>>> take some digging--paywalls, registration, etc,--to see if any of the other >>>> women do not yet have articles. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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