And my reply was to Jerald. I think YOU misunderstood
my question to Jerald. I was NOT asking for the CCCC
member's agreement, I was asking Jerald to consider
the fact that not all CCCC members may consider the
SSSCA a bad thing, because they may not understand the
loss of freedoms involved.

Before you call me out in a public forum, I'd
appreciate it if you would read and understand my
message. I did say:

"Before we ask the CCCC to get involved, how
about we all discuss this in depth, so as to become
familar with the issue? "

Keyword being _discuss_.

John Hebert

--- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 17:13, Jerald Sheets wrote:
> > My whole point is that the congresspersons would
> be considerably more
> > likely to listen to the group as a whole given the
> demographic &
> > community pull.  It had nothing at all to do with
> "agreeing" with each
> > other.  I was responding directly to Shannon's
> statement.
> 
> Uh, Jerald, my reply was to John. Note his email
> below. Slow down sonny.
> 
> Regards, Dustin
> 
> > 
> > --JMS
> > 
> > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 14:55, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > > Ok, I obviously misunderstood what you wanted to
> do. I thought you
> > > wanted to discuss the SSSCA and DMCA, not just
> agree with one another
> > > that the legislation is bad. If that isn't the
> case then it shouldn't
> > > matter what the opinion of the Clickers will be.
> > > 
> > > Regards, Dustin
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 15:37, John Hebert wrote:
> > > > But would all the Clickers agree? Copyright
> and IP are
> > > > very fuzzy issues that are widely
> misunderstood. It is
> > > > easy for the RIAA and the MPAA to build a case
> against
> > > > piracy, as it can be shown to impact their
> industries.
> > > > However, the other side of the coin is that
> open
> > > > source software would be made illegal, or at
> least
> > > > those parts that would implement DRM.
> > > > 
> > > > Before we ask the CCCC to get involved, how
> about we
> > > > all discuss this in depth, so as to become
> familar
> > > > with the issue? Let's prepare ourselves before
> we try
> > > > to make a big noise with our representatives.
> > > > 
> > > > Again, I'd really like to have someone
> knowledgeble
> > > > speak about IP and copyright law. Does anybody
> know
> > > > someone like this?
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > > --- Jerald Sheets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Well maybe not us by ourselves, but perhaps
> we
> > > > > joined with our friends
> > > > > at the Clickers to request their presence...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 20 vs 2000....I know I'd listen.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --JMS
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 13:03, Shannon Roddy
> wrote:
> > > > > > Too bad Breaux or Landrou (sp?) probably
> would not
> > > > > take the time to come
> > > > > > and talk to us.  Wee could grill them and
> see what
> > > > > they think or if they
> > > > > > even have enough knowledge to be voting on
> the
> > > > > damn thing.  I think what
> > > > > > happens most of the time is that the
> people making
> > > > > the laws do not know
> > > > > > enough about the subject, so the lobbyists
> win
> > > > > (like the RIAA,
> > > > > > Hollywood, etc.).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Shannon
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 12:52, Randy le
> Jeune wrote:
> > > > > > > I think it would be a good topic as it
> concerns
> > > > > all of us. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Randy
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:43
> PM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: [brluglist] possible topic for
> November
> > > > > meeting: SSSCA?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'd like to suggest that we discuss the
> SSSCA
> > > > > bill.
> > > > > > > You can find out more about it at the
> following:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>
http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.redhat.com/opensourcenow/article2.html
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and many other places on the web via
> Google,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I also wanted to ask if any BRLUG
> members knew a
> > > > > > > lawyer or possibly an LSU faculty member
> > > > > interested in
> > > > > > > the SSSCA bill and would be willing to
> speak
> > > > > about it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > John Hebert
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
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