Well, not all of ximian is open source, but most of it is.  Evolution is
in fact free.  It's released under the GPL and you can get the source
code at the ximian ftp site under /pub/source/evolution.

On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 20:46, Doug Riddle wrote:
> Ximian is mostly Open Source, as in much of their source is
> available, but much of their software in not open, as in you have to
> pay for evolution and cannot have the source.  They sort of straddle
> the fence, which accounts for a lot of their bad press.  They produce
> some great software though, and if you are only using it, and not
> attempting to build on it, you will never notice the problems.
> 
> Doug Riddle
> 
> 
> --- Douglas Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ximian, excellent desktop.  And it's very intuitive.  The default
> > install has a word processor (abiword), a spreadsheet (gnumeric),
> > an
> > e-mail program (evolution), and a browser (mozilla).  Everything is
> > available from the drop down menu up top, and the desktop looks
> > nice and
> > is extremely customizeable.
> > 
> > I would assume that ximian is all open source, judging from their
> > use of
> > gnome as opposed to kde.  I may be wrong though.
> > 
> > That's just my 2 cents on the intuitive desktop thing.
> > 
> > On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 15:41, Mnemonic wrote:
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> > > I checked out http://rute.sourceforge.net.  As I was looking
> > around I started 
> > > to think about an individual with whom I work.  He is not willing
> > to give 
> > > Linux a try because he says he does not want to face another
> > steep learning 
> > > curve.  Considering this, I think that what has been suggested is
> > exactly 
> > > what I want, but not necessarily what everyone wants.  That is,
> > most people 
> > > want to turn on their computers and have them function at such a
> > level that 
> > > operation is intuitive. I do not think they want to spend an
> > inordinate 
> > > amount of time learning how to use their expensive box of metal
> > and plastic.
> > > 
> > > Let's say that I am Joe General Public...if my computer is not
> > broken and I 
> > > am able to do everything I need to do with it, why in the world
> > would I want 
> > > to try something like an alternate operating system.  What the
> > heck is an 
> > > operating system?  How do I even find out that such an animal
> > exists?  
> > > Education/awareness is paramount to the success of this project.
> > > 
> > > - -K
> > > 
> > > On Friday 19 July 2002 14:15, you wrote:
> > > > I still think that it would be a huge disservice to the users
> > to give
> > > > them a hacked, unsupported outside of BRLUG distribution of
> > Linux.
> > > > Giving out a Debian or Red Hat or Mandrake would leave open
> > their
> > > > options for support. CDs are cheap. Trying to shoehorn a bunch
> > of mixed
> > > > software wouldn't have any benefit, unless you abandon the idea
> > of
> > > > creating a custom distribution and offer an "add-on" CD of
> > software that
> > > > the distribution doesn't currently have, such as OpenOffice,
> > nVidia
> > > > drivers (or scripts to obtain, build, and install them if
> > licensing
> > > > doesn't permit), and books in electronic format.
> > > >
> > > > One other avenue to consider would be the possibility to have
> > the Rute (
> > > > http://rute.sf.net ) printed and donated to libraries. Having
> > it done at
> > > > Kinkos might be prohibitively expensive, but does anyone have
> > ties to
> > > > publishers or printing companies that can possibly get this
> > done at a
> > > > reasonable rate?
> > > >
> > > > -Tim
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