Not fully, no. It depends on these factors:

* Are you a US citizen? Then yes, fully.
* Are you a non-US citizen, but on US land? Then yes, partially.
* Are you a non-US citizen, but not on US land? Then a bit. 

I just read a good article on this actually on Salon. There is
apparently a lot of precedent on this going back to a few years after
the Constitution was ratified, so apparently it's pretty much set in
stone, with your obvious tweaking here and there over time by Congress
and the Supreme Court (I suppose Executive Orders should be included,
although those don't seem to be able to stand the test of time).

For example, I don't believe the Fifth Amendment applies at all to
anyone that is not a citizen and is outside the US. And that makes
sense. It shouldn't. We call that "foreign intelligence." Other
Amendments that don't fully apply are the First Amendment, clearly the
Second, etc. 

Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly.

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-----Original Message-----
From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:16 AM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data?

IANAL but doesn't the US Constitution, with few exceptions, apply to all
Citizens and non-citizens alike? 



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On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:09 AM, John Hebert wrote:

> My thoughts:
> 
> 1) Use Freenet (http://freenetproject.org/) to store and share your
data, as well as to chat and browse anonymously on an encrypted
peer-to-peer network. Sure, it still depends on keeping your passphrase
private, but how far would the FBI go to force someone to give their
passphrase? Start practicing holding your breath underwater.
> 
> 2) The article  is misleadingly titled "Police want backdoor to Web
users' private data"
(http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2), but it
is about the results of a survey of some law enforcement officers. I was
more worried about David Duke's poll surveys than this yellow journalism
by Declan McCullagh. Shame, shame, SHAME on you Dustin for even
mentioning this article on the mailing list. Oh, wait. It is your
mailing list...
> 
> 3) Law enforcement can and do use actual investigative techniques to
find those who create child pornography (i.e.; photography of people
less than 18 years of age performing sexual activity). A well-designed
and secured network for law enforcement to do their jobs is a good
thing. Think about this: law enforcement officials are using email now
to exchange information about investigations. (!!!)
> 
>  It seems kinda ass-backwards for some law enforcement officials to
take away the 5th Amendment for all US citizens because some citizens
keep a collection of certain bits on the computers when there are cases
of actual sexual abuse of children (again, under 18 years) within this
country, not to mention other countries. Those US citizens who vote with
their cable TV remotes and support taking away the 5th may not want to
visit certain other countries. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent. Look for the big black spot
on the map. 
> 
> 4) Stupid border guards don't know the difference between child
pornography and hentai.
> 
> Extra bonus points for comments on the philosophical problems involved
with enforcing pornography laws perceived with analog interfaces.
> 
> John
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