> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 October 2002 15:44

> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> 
> > Henri Yandell wrote:
> > >
> > > Right now? Provide a good split-pane of the difference between Jakarta
> > > Commons and Apache Commons as far as the projects themselves are
> > > concerned.
> >
> > someone from j-c would need to provide that half..
> 
> Erm. Looks like Geir's the only candidate then. There needs to be some
> overlap between Jakarta Commons and Apache Commons surely? I'm assuming
> that Geir's very instrumental as he's the bridge and probably the one with
> the most 'Commons' experience at Apache Commons?
> 
> [Not checked to see who the APR member is and who the Xml-Commons member
> is, but I assume that the Apache Commons board has a person from each]

The entire PMC is in STATUS.

> > > I think we're all happy to sign-up, once we have a real understanding of
> > > what the contract says and what it's gonna mean.
> >
> > developing bylaws for the project is one of our first tasks.
> >
> > > None of us are really going to budge at the moment if the chance still
> > > exists that we join and then find out that some beaureacrat is demanding
> > > that we release all our code in perl/c++ and tcl too. [a hypothetically
> > > stupid situation]. I do however expect a lot of us to be listening in
> > > though and try to help you get Apache-Commons/Java to the point of being
> > > useful to Jakarta Commons, but I doubt any of us will commit.
> >
>> no, forcing multi-language implementation is 'way off the radar, and
>> destry-on-sight as a concept.  having a place where non-java stuff can
>> live alongside java *is* in scope and one of the goals.
> 
> It's in scope until the scope is defined though. Currently joining Apache
> Commons is akin to using proprietary s/w, no clue which direction it's
> going to go right now.

This is a bit harsh don't you think.  If you look at the STATUS file
and the resolution that was passed by the Board you should at least get
some general sense of the direction we wish to take Commons.

Sander

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