> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 25 October 2002 12:59

> Aaron Bannert wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 12:32:17AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>The PMCs job should be to stay the 
> >>heck out of the way of the committers.
> >>    
> >>
> >
>> I agree with this, once the PMC has defined a clear mission.
> 
> The more you clarify scope and stucture - the more accountability you 
> assign to yourselves.  With clear accountability the community can be 
> more responsible - with demonstrated responsibility the PMC should in 
> principal stay out of the way of the committers (at least if the PMC 
> follwoing the model of the Jakarta process).
> 
>>> If the committers need help, 
>>> they can ask the PMC for guidance, but let's not have a PMC that 
>>> dictates from upon high.
>>    
>> Dictate is a strong word. I haven't experienced any ASF PMC which
>> has dictated from upon high. What kinds of things are you worried
>> about, specifically?

Me neither.
 
> PMC's have some things to dictate - 
> license policy - 

This is something dictated by being in the ASF, not a choice of
a PMC.

> voting policy - security policy -

I'm kind of hoping those won't have to be dictated (but come
natural).

> duspute resolution mechanisms.  The PMC could choose 
> to use the Jakarta policies with would be a good starting point.

It should choose to use policies that fit in the ASF, be it from
Jakarta, HTTPD, APR or otherwise.

My $0.02,

Sander

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