--On Monday, November 4, 2002 12:16 PM -0800 Aaron Bannert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I suspect that the non-APR folk on this list are having a hard time
grokking what Serf is and how it fits into the murky undefined
ether of Commons. Would the proponents of this move be so kind as
to make their case before this group?

Um, we've gone over this before and I stated here on [EMAIL PROTECTED] why Serf belongs in Commons, who the key players are, and what the proposed development plan is. I'm not about to repeat myself.


Please reread <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

(Heh.  I like Mulberry's Message-IDs.)

(I will try to post a clearer and less policy-based proposal akin to
my "HTTP Utilities Container" proposal that was mentioned earlier
last week, since I believe this sort of a container will foster
both cross- language contributions and quality reusable libraries
that are focused on a functional goal (making HTTP Utilities). I
would like to hear what others think about this and how they see
these various HTTP libraries and projects working together and how
Commons is a proper parent for these sorts of collaborations.)

Again, I don't think that Commons should have 'container' components. If the projects within Commons want to collaborate, then fine, but that's not something that the we need to mandate. Encourage, perhaps, but nothing formal. Sander made an excellent point earlier:


No, the people in the community make it civilized, not the rules.

Likewise, if the people in the community want to collaborate, they can and probably will, but we shouldn't force groups to play together if they don't want to in the first place. It's not the PMC's job to play babysitter. -- justin

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