Not having used a sandbox is not a good reason IMHO to dismiss the concept. Overmore, sandboxes are not made to expand beyond charters. They are there to experiment new ideas while still staying in scope of the original charter.
I think you're missing the point. I can't experiment in anything outside of the mission charters in the projects I'm involved with. That means that if it doesn't relate to being an HTTP Server or directly to a portable runtime, I have no home for it within the ASF. For example, both the HTTP Server PMC and the APR PMC have decided that an HTTP client is not in scope for it - hence serf is a nomad looking for a home.
Jakarta has a lot of things in its sandbox (and so does XML) that I would consider violates its original charter. But, that doesn't work for all ASF projects and their PMCs. -- justin
