From: "robert burrell donkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jakarta becomes jakarta-commons plus left overs?


> On 19 Nov 2003, at 00:12, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> > Sounds entirely feasible.
> >
> > I'm not sure Tomcat would be too stunned at moving out, as Jakarta has
> > a
> > lot of brand recognition for them [the years of people thinking Jakarta
> > was a web server].
> >
> > One of the reasons for sorting out Apache-Commons vs Jakarta Commons is
> > that it's holding up the movement of the regexps, ecs and bcel inside a
> > more active community.
>
> ecs is truly mature - it does what it does pretty well but IMHO it's a
> deadend for future development. it's used (quite extensively) in
> production which is why we fix the occasional bug and very occasionally
> make a release.
>
> IMHO bcel is also pretty mature and it may (or may not) be complete.
> there are a lot of exciting, active projects related to bcel but they
> are not bcel.
>
> IMHO there is very little to gain from moving either project here. they
> are very easy to oversee (since they are pretty much completed) and
> seem very happy to slumber. (if either of these came alive again then
> i'd probably advocate making the change.)
>
> regex and ORO are more active and probably aren't completed (in the way
> that ecs and bcel probably are). there are problems of procedure and
> community with them remaining at jakarta. yes - with a bit of effort -
> the jakarta-pmc could probably solve these issues but maybe a move
> would be a better (as well as easier) solution. i'm not really sure
> that jakarta-commons verses apache-commons needs to be resolved before
> ORO and regex could move.
Er, that wasn't what I was proposing. I was proposing that j-c takes over
the maintainance of these mature products within Jakarta (and everything
else is removed from Jakarta). ie. no move to a-c.

Stephen



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