Or moving them to jakarta-commons?

At apache commons there will still be only be a small community (of two?)
and less connection to those jakarta committers who may feel some ownership.

At jakarta-commons there is a vibrant community of 60+ committers and many
other watchers. There may even be the desire to develop. IMHO, j-c is pretty
good at handling small mature projects.

Stephen

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From: "Daniel F. Savarese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Geir
Magnusso
> n Jr." writes:
> >Is there a good post describing the benefit of these changes?  I don't
> >understand the upside of moving oro and regex from one umbrella to
>
> I'm trying to catch up on some of the discussion that I didn't have the
> time to participate in.  The main benefit of moving oro and regex
> to Apache Commons is that they are largely maintenance-mode projects.
> They are also small projects.  They will likely never grow to the level
> of being top-level projects, so Apache Commons appears to be a
> natural home.  Despite the number of committers in the avail file for
> each project, they really have only one active committer apiece.  Their
> user and dev mailing lists also have very low volume and could be
> consolidated into one list.  Moving to Apache Commons will rectify these
> problems in one fell swoop and also have the effect of allowing the two
> projects to collaborate better (I actually think the proper grouping is
> under a text processing group) and create higher-level text-processing
> APIs that can leverage either of the regular expression engines (oro
> already supports multiple engines).  Furthermore, should development of
> C or C++ APIs be desired, they can sensibly be pursued in Commons, but
> not in Jakarta, which by definition, is Java-centric.  Finally, since
> Commons is supposed to pilot the adoption of SVN, oro can help with the
> piloting the accountless committer setup.  There are two contributors to
> oro who could be voted as committers, but granted only SVN access, which
is
> the direction the ASF appears want to go to avoid creating more shell
> accounts.
>
> None of these benefits are compelling by themselves.  My principal
> desire to see oro and regex move is to facilitate the oversight and
> approval of releases.  Right now, who on the Jakarta PMC other than
> myself knows the status of oro and who other than Vadim (and myself
> who moderates the regexp lists)?  They are little subprojects that have
> gotten lost in the shuffle, victims of their boring natures and
> mature "good enough to get the job done" states.  If Jakarta is
> indeed overstretched, moving these two little subprojects to Apache
> Commons, a project designed to oversee little subprojects, will help
> relieve some of the Jakarta PMC's workload.
>
> daniel
>
>
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