Having the DB PMC sponsor the proposal basically means the DB PMC is taking responsibility and it will become a part of the DB Project -- which I don't think is quite what you want. I'm more than happy to mentor, personally, but that is me speaking, not the DB PMC. The ways of the incubator are more or less in slow flux as we figure out how best to make it work.

If you want the DB PMC to sponsor the project I can bring a proposal to the PMC, but I am not sure what it means to have the DB PMC sponsor it and have the project intended to become a top level project.

Looking at the proposal, I would suggest a couple small changes:

* Change the requested cayenne-pmc mailing list to cayenne-ppmc
* Let's see if the DB PMC is willing to sponsor (I am just the chair) before we make that part of the proposal =)


Bill, are you willing to help mentor? I ask as you initially contacted us here =)

We may also want to take this discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- which gets a bit more traffic and probably where people can offer more advice!

-Brian

On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

Brian, et all.

We put a proposal draft on Cayenne Wiki:

http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/CAY/ASF+Proposal

As we are requesting DB PMC to sponsor it, I am posting it on this list before we send it to the incubator. I guess someone from DB PMC would have to initiate the incubator request. Please comment.

Thanks
Andrus


On Feb 20, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Brian McCallister wrote:
Cayenne might be better suited for TLP status, which I suggest considering as the DB project is starting to balloon =)

That said, I am very willing to support Cayenne personally, and suspect the rest of the DB PMC might be supportive as well. It would fit well in the DB project conceptually (which historically is more about database access than databases). I just am trying to go with the TLP preference vibe going around, and that Cayenne has been around a while I don't want to cramp their style.

So, I'm very happy to help mentor (the Official Incubator Role and the actual verb, as it relates to working within Apache) Cayenne, and would love to see this work out! It may be worth pinging the Tapestry folks as well as I have seen a lot of Cayenne use within the Tapestry community, and they are an energetic bunch.

-Brian


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